[Public-List] Rudder and cabin roof cross beam

[Gordon Laco]

True….


Gordon Laco
www.gordonlaco.com





> On Aug 4, 2021, at 10:01 AM, Andrew Johns via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> Are you seeing the 7* under power?  Between a little slop in the tiller
> head and fighting a little prop walk that wouldn’t be unheard of.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 12:39 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
>> Information on the mast beam repair is available at
>> http://www.alberg30.org/maintenance/HullDeck/MastBeam/
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 10:43 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Gerry,
>>> 
>>> Well the cure for the rudder is still the same… fill the holes in the
>>> rudder head fitting with welding or brazing, then carefully redrill so
>> you
>>> end up with the correct orientation to have zero helm when the rudder is
>> at
>>> zero degrees.
>>> 
>>> I’ll assume you do not have a warp in the rudder blade?  I think a twist
>>> in the shaft is not possible, the blade would shear off or that bolt up
>> top
>>> would shear before the shaft twisted.
>>> 
>>> With regard to the mast beam plates, I think there is quite specific
>>> information on that on the Alberg 30 Association our American cousins
>> keep
>>> at http://alberg30.org <http://alberg30.org/>
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gordon Laco
>>> 426 Surprise
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Taft Gerry <gftaft at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you.  There is no keyway in this rudder head.  I have a hole
>>> drilled right through the rudder shaft to align the rudder and to hold
>> the
>>> rudder head to the post.  Is this something a previous owner has done?
>>> Perhaps they drilled it incorrectly? However thank you for your
>> suggestion
>>> of re-machining.
>>>> 
>>>> Can you point me in the direction where I can find more information of
>>> how the cross beam is easily fixed?
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 07:05:18 a.m. PDT, Gordon Laco <
>>> mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning,
>>>> 
>>>> That’s an interesting list of issues…
>>>> 
>>>> I appears  there is a problem with the new rudder head fitting.  There
>>> will be a keyway slot machined in it… if you’ve got a seven degree offset
>>> in your steering, that means you need to have the keyway filled and
>>> remachined seven degrees in the appropriate direction.
>>>> 
>>>> With regard to your beam issue… it’s one that all boats before hull
>>> number 400 will need to have addressed at some time.   There is a
>>> relatively easy fix which involves aluminium plates to bolster the beam.
>>> I reckon oak would work too, if one is committed to simple maintenance
>> of
>>> the wooden structure.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers -
>>>> 
>>>> Gordon Laco
>>>> Surprise 426
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 3, 2021, at 10:01 AM, Taft Gerry via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> RudderOn the hard, the tiller, rudder and keel all appear to be in
>>> alignment.  However once underway, in order to go straight, my tiller
>> needs
>>> to be offset by about 7 degrees to starboard.  The tiller head was
>>> remanufactured last year, and this year I replaced the gudgeon, pintle
>> and
>>> rudder shoe. It has a thru-bolt to the rudder shaft and an alignment
>> bolt -
>>> no key way.
>>>>> I am thinking my rudder stock is twisted however that does not explain
>>> why everything appears to be in alignment until the boat is underway.
>>>>> Cabin roof cross beamMy 1965 has a wood beam and it is deforming. I
>>> have no interest in replacing the beam.
>>>>> I am thinking about using a 4x4 and a bottle jack to support the beam
>>> as required.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any comments or suggestions would be most appreciated
>>>>> Gerry TaftKia Ora #103
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>> Jonathan M Bresler
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>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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