[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 4114, Issue 3

charles pleisse velocharles1 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 4 08:27:17 PST 2021


Maybe we should take a survey of interested parties to determine what size
production run we could afford.  I would be interested in a couple of them
for Sookie.

Charles Pleisse
College Park Bicycles
( <http://www.bike123.com>301)864-2211


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>    1. Re: Liability Insurance (Jay Davenport)
>    2. Re: Reproduction Builder's plates (Kris Coward)
>    3. Re: Reproduction Builder's plates (Roy Jarnagin)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 21:22:15 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jay Davenport <jay at saildriver.com>
> To: "public-list at lists.alberg30.org" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Cc: George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Liability Insurance
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> Allstate has been insuring my 1973 boat for the last 28 years, but I may
> be grandfathered. I don't know if they are currently taking on older boats.
> In any case, their premiums and service on claims have been good, and they
> include $500. in towing insurance.
> Jay?
>
>
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>     On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 03:50:49 PM EST, George Dinwiddie via
> Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>  Another company, which I've not seen mentioned here, is Gowrie Group.
> They acquired IMIS which was an independent marine insurance broker
> started by Al Golden, whom I met through the CompuServe sailing forum.
>
> It's hard to say how good they are, since I've never made a claim. You
> can find them at https://www.gowrie.com/Marine-Insurance/IMIS.aspx
>
> ? - George
>
> On 2/3/21 8:38 AM, P Seidel via Public-List wrote:
> >? As a data point, USAA/Progressive and BoatUS/Geico will not insure a
> boat built before 1965.? Erie and State Farm will.? I just ran into this
> with trying to insure the #8 boat.
> >? ? ? On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 08:28:55 AM EST, Mike Lehman via
> Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >?
> >? We are very pleased with Erie
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:16 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Al,
> >>
> >> Congratulations on finding an Alberg 30!
> >> You may wish to check with Progressive or
> >> USAA.
> >>
> >> Which Alberg 30 you are considering?
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 6:56 PM Alexander Mitchell via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey all,
> >>>
> >>> I am looking at purchasing an A30 here in the midwest, and am 98% of
> the
> >>> way ready to say yes, pending a few last things.? The marina says I
> need
> >>> liability insurance, but Geico/ Boat US won't insure anything that old
> >>> (1965).
> >>>
> >>> Any recommendations?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >>> Al
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> From: Kris Coward <kris at melon.org>
> To: Mike Lehman via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
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>
> Do you still have the image of the plate that was sent for the previous
> run of them? Possibly also dimensions?
>
> In a conversation off-list with a few people who'd expressed interest, I
> brought up having found some good indications that hitting anodized
> aluminum with a CO2 laser (of the sort you can find at most
> hackerspaces/makerspaces, and that a decent assortment of hobbyists also
> have at home) burns off the dye in the anodization, leaving bright (but
> I imagine still anodized) metal.
>
> Basically this means that if you've got a suitably sized and coloured
> piece of anodized sheet/plate, and an image file, there's a decent
> change that you can find a hackerspace, makerspace, or hobbyist with a
> laser and a willingness to help you out to make your own plate with no
> minimum order size.
>
> I don't know where to find such a laser around the Chesapeake, but for
> Albergers close to Toronto, I know that Hacklab and Site 3 each have
> such a laser, can't quite remember if the Toronto Public Library has one
> (or if they've just got 3d printers), strongly suspect that the Toronto
> Tool Library has one, and I've got some friends around High Park who
> have one at home (and know of 2 more home lasers belonging to friends
> who live up in Deep River). I imagine that they're not that much scarcer
> around Maryland.
>
> Cheers,
> Kris
>
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 03:18:50PM -0500, Mike Lehman via Public-List
> wrote:
> > Jim and I did this project as a team, I'll check the inventory but I am
> > pretty sure it is depleted. I remember ordering them and may have a
> record
> > from where in Baltimore. What I distinctly remember was the minimum order
> > was 1,000 plates.
> >
> > Mike Lehman
> > ~~~_/)_/)~~_/)~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 3:13 PM Michael via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Jim Menucci was the ramrod for that offering; he is gone now. I don't
> > > know where his source was.
> > >
> > > Michael Grosh
> > > #220
> > >
> > > ------ Original Message ------
> > > From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> > > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > > Cc: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> > > Sent: 2/1/2021 2:44:22 PM
> > > Subject: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
> > >
> > > >Hello friends,
> > > >
> > > >Forgive me if this has been covered already? but are there still
> > > reproduction builder?s plates for our boats available from the
> Association?
> > > >
> > > >I?d be interested in one myself? ours has long since had the blue
> > > printing worn off?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Gordon Laco
> > > >426 Surprise
> > > >www.gordonlaco.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> Kris Coward                                     http://unripe.melon.org/
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 20:06:19 -0600
> From: "Roy Jarnagin" <roy.jarnagin at gmail.com>
> To: "'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'"
>         <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
> Message-ID: <000e01d6fa9a$5495f670$fdc1e350$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"
>
> You might check out the site frontpanelexpress.com. I have used them to
> make panels for electronic equipment and have been pleased with the results.
>
> Roy Jarnagin
>
> Southern Serenity #72
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On
> Behalf Of Kris Coward via Public-List
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 6:25 PM
> To: Mike Lehman via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Cc: Kris Coward <kris at melon.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
>
>
> Do you still have the image of the plate that was sent for the previous
> run of them? Possibly also dimensions?
>
> In a conversation off-list with a few people who'd expressed interest, I
> brought up having found some good indications that hitting anodized
> aluminum with a CO2 laser (of the sort you can find at most
> hackerspaces/makerspaces, and that a decent assortment of hobbyists also
> have at home) burns off the dye in the anodization, leaving bright (but I
> imagine still anodized) metal.
>
> Basically this means that if you've got a suitably sized and coloured
> piece of anodized sheet/plate, and an image file, there's a decent change
> that you can find a hackerspace, makerspace, or hobbyist with a laser and a
> willingness to help you out to make your own plate with no minimum order
> size.
>
> I don't know where to find such a laser around the Chesapeake, but for
> Albergers close to Toronto, I know that Hacklab and Site 3 each have such a
> laser, can't quite remember if the Toronto Public Library has one (or if
> they've just got 3d printers), strongly suspect that the Toronto Tool
> Library has one, and I've got some friends around High Park who have one at
> home (and know of 2 more home lasers belonging to friends who live up in
> Deep River). I imagine that they're not that much scarcer around Maryland.
>
> Cheers,
> Kris
>
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 03:18:50PM -0500, Mike Lehman via Public-List
> wrote:
> > Jim and I did this project as a team, I'll check the inventory but I
> > am pretty sure it is depleted. I remember ordering them and may have a
> > record from where in Baltimore. What I distinctly remember was the
> > minimum order was 1,000 plates.
> >
> > Mike Lehman
> > ~~~_/)_/)~~_/)~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 3:13 PM Michael via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Jim Menucci was the ramrod for that offering; he is gone now. I
> > > don't know where his source was.
> > >
> > > Michael Grosh
> > > #220
> > >
> > > ------ Original Message ------
> > > From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> > > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > > Cc: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> > > Sent: 2/1/2021 2:44:22 PM
> > > Subject: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
> > >
> > > >Hello friends,
> > > >
> > > >Forgive me if this has been covered already? but are there still
> > > reproduction builder?s plates for our boats available from the
> Association?
> > > >
> > > >I?d be interested in one myself? ours has long since had the blue
> > > printing worn off?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Gordon Laco
> > > >426 Surprise
> > > >www.gordonlaco.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >_______________________________________________
> > > >These businesses support your Association:
> > > >http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > > >Please support them.
> > > >_______________________________________________
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> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > These businesses support your Association:
> > > http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > > Please support them.
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> Kris Coward                                     http://unripe.melon.org/
> GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733  830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 21:49:59 -0500
> From: John Irving <jirvingvt at gmail.com>
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>         <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
> Message-ID: <6A607ACE-D4A6-448A-976B-9565D32D6DDC at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I?d be interested in a builder?s plate for Scotch Bonnet.  How much are
> they?
>
> > On Feb 3, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Roy Jarnagin via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?You might check out the site frontpanelexpress.com. I have used them
> to make panels for electronic equipment and have been pleased with the
> results.
> >
> > Roy Jarnagin
> >
> > Southern Serenity #72
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On
> Behalf Of Kris Coward via Public-List
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 6:25 PM
> > To: Mike Lehman via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Cc: Kris Coward <kris at melon.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
> >
> >
> > Do you still have the image of the plate that was sent for the previous
> run of them? Possibly also dimensions?
> >
> > In a conversation off-list with a few people who'd expressed interest, I
> brought up having found some good indications that hitting anodized
> aluminum with a CO2 laser (of the sort you can find at most
> hackerspaces/makerspaces, and that a decent assortment of hobbyists also
> have at home) burns off the dye in the anodization, leaving bright (but I
> imagine still anodized) metal.
> >
> > Basically this means that if you've got a suitably sized and coloured
> piece of anodized sheet/plate, and an image file, there's a decent change
> that you can find a hackerspace, makerspace, or hobbyist with a laser and a
> willingness to help you out to make your own plate with no minimum order
> size.
> >
> > I don't know where to find such a laser around the Chesapeake, but for
> Albergers close to Toronto, I know that Hacklab and Site 3 each have such a
> laser, can't quite remember if the Toronto Public Library has one (or if
> they've just got 3d printers), strongly suspect that the Toronto Tool
> Library has one, and I've got some friends around High Park who have one at
> home (and know of 2 more home lasers belonging to friends who live up in
> Deep River). I imagine that they're not that much scarcer around Maryland.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kris
> >
> >> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 03:18:50PM -0500, Mike Lehman via Public-List
> wrote:
> >> Jim and I did this project as a team, I'll check the inventory but I
> >> am pretty sure it is depleted. I remember ordering them and may have a
> >> record from where in Baltimore. What I distinctly remember was the
> >> minimum order was 1,000 plates.
> >>
> >> Mike Lehman
> >> ~~~_/)_/)~~_/)~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 3:13 PM Michael via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jim Menucci was the ramrod for that offering; he is gone now. I
> >>> don't know where his source was.
> >>>
> >>> Michael Grosh
> >>> #220
> >>>
> >>> ------ Original Message ------
> >>> From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> >>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >>> Cc: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> >>> Sent: 2/1/2021 2:44:22 PM
> >>> Subject: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
> >>>
> >>>> Hello friends,
> >>>>
> >>>> Forgive me if this has been covered already? but are there still
> >>> reproduction builder?s plates for our boats available from the
> Association?
> >>>>
> >>>> I?d be interested in one myself? ours has long since had the blue
> >>> printing worn off?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>> 426 Surprise
> >>>> www.gordonlaco.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> These businesses support your Association:
> >>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> >>>> Please support them.
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> > GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733  830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
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