[Public-List] corroded rudder

Rolph Townshend joanrolph4 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 13 09:55:06 PST 2021 

See the photo below re the rudder repair

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 12:19 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> yes, I’m learning a lot
>
> Gordon Laco
> www.gordonlaco.com
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>
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> > On Mar 13, 2021, at 10:57 AM, John Birch via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > This is a very interesting discussion. Those photos, experiences, and
> tables in the link are terrific.
> >
> > - JB
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On
> Behalf Of George Dinwiddie via Public-List
> > Sent: March 12, 2021 11:07 PM
> > To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> > Cc: George Dinwiddie
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] corroded rudder
> >
> > There are probably some differences between a 1967 rudder and a 1972
> > rudder. See
> > http://www.alberg30.org/maintenance/Steering/RudderVarieties/ and
> >
> http://www.alberg30.org/maintenance/Steering/RudderVarieties/Checkmate220Rudder/
> >
> >  - George
> >
> > On 3/12/21 8:39 PM, David Scherrer via Public-List wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I rebuilt my 1967 boats rudder just about a month ago. Not too
> difficult but does involve a little bit of lifting and impact hammer work….
> >>
> >> You will not have to drop the rudder/shaft from the boat in order to
> remove the rudder itself. This a very unique design that Alberg came up
> with.
> >> The shaft coming down from the tiller is solid bronze bent around the
> top leading edge and only extends down about 2 ft of the rudder, attached
> by a series of five counter sunk, large bronze threaded bolts.
> >> Angle/turn the rudder as far as you can and brace to get to the bolts,
> then use intact hammer to loosen the slotted bolts. Probably have to remove
> a fair amount of paint and glass filler. You will have to replace the bolts
> as they are slotted and its very hard to avoid damaging the heads.
> >>
> >> The pin joint half way down is just like a hinge on a door in many
> ways. The pin was worn on mine so I replaced with a shortened carriage
> bronze bolt (cut off the threads). Also ground down the squared section at
> the top of carriage bolt below cap to make round, easy to do..
> >> You will have to remove the unit in order to get to the pin, Do this
> same time as removing the upper bolts from rudder..
> >>
> >> The bottom shoe does have a pin in the base that can be easily replace
> once you lift the rudder off. I do recommend replacing the large bolt in
> the bottom shoe that is screwed into the keel as well.
> >>
> >> Use epoxy with silicon micro ballons with all your replacement bolts
> both for the five above and one in the shoe.This will greatly improve the
> threads grip.
> >> The nuts and bolts in the hinge were in fine shape on my boat so I used
> them again.
> >>
> >> I do recommend investing in a impact hammer..it will make a world of
> difference. Also a decent ratchet set.
> >>
> >> The rudder on my boat was a solid fiberglass material, kinda like
> Bondo. The bronze bolts were simply threaded into this material..made me
> little nervous, thus the adding of micro balloons.
> >>
> >> This is a fairly robust rudder system. It would take a lot for a
> complete failure in my opinion. But some rudders were made from solid wood,
> other a mix and others all glass and resin.
> >>
> >> I'm in the North West if thats helpful.
> >>
> >> Feel free to ask any questions…I would like to be helpful if I can.
> >>
> >> David S.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 12, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Stephen Gwyn via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There's a lot of slop in the middle fitting.
> >>>
> >>> Underway, it's more of a clunk when I tack and the load shifts
> >>> to the other side. When this happened 15 years ago, it was fixed by
> >>> putting a bushing in the shoe.
> >>>
> >>> The yard is also not convinced there isn't more corrosion a long the
> shaft.
> >>> They reluctantly recommending rebuilding the rudder.
> >>> Reluctantly, because they're extremely busy right now and don't need
> extra work.
> >>>
> >>> While a lot of the sailing I do is in light wind, I do seem to end up
> >>> pounding through 4 foot waves a few times a year. I've never fussed
> >>> about the boat breaking. Knowing I've lost that much metal a
> >>> key spot will not make me calm.
> >>>
> >>> SG
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