[Public-List] Boat Insurance Question

Gordon Laco mainstay at csolve.net
Thu Mar 25 08:31:23 PDT 2021


Hello friends, 

I second Marianne’s comments, Drew at Skipper’s Plan is a sailor himself and knows the business.  I have had a claim and having him navigating the insurance world for me was invaluable.

I reckon the key is to have a broker who knows the business… they must exist in the US.  

One thing Drew helped me understand is that if one insures the yacht with too low a value assigned to her, even minor damage can cause her to be written off.  On that subject I am delighted that CARANDY, quite a nice A30, likely sold for a reasonably good price, which helps us all.

Gordon Laco
426 Surprise




> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Marianne King-Wilson via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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> In Canada, there can be none better than skippersplan.com
> They understand classic boats, particularly the A-30, make no unreasonable demands, and charge affordable rates. 
> I hope you will be so fortunate in your search.
> 
> Marianne King-Wilson
> Windward #369
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> On Mar 25, 2021, at 09:50, RICHARD HAZLEGROVE via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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> I know this question comes up from time to time but since I wasn’t in the market for insurance I unfortunately did not take note of the suggestions.  Until now.  
> 
> I have a very generous Agreed Value policy from Hanover Insurance ($22,000) first issued in 1998.  I have never filed a claim.  Yesterday I received notice of non-renewal explaining that they were exiting the line of business.  
> 
> I’m not all that concerned about replacing the agreed value since I doubt it would be anywhere near what I had.  Boat US first quoted $5,100 before clarifying that they don’t write this or even liability coverage for vessels older than 40 years.  Quest was built in 1970 and is kept on a private dock at our second home in the lower Chesapeake Bay.  
> 
> So can anyone suggest a company or agent that can underwrite basic liability coverage for my 50 year old boat.  Thanks
> 
> Richard Hazlegrove
> Quest 433
> Mobjack Bay, VA.  
> 
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>> 1. Re: Prop Size (scott at scottmaury.com)
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>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Prop Size
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>> hey just a follow up, Michigan wheel has recommended that I get a 12"  
>> / 11  three blade prop and that is what the engine guys have ordered  
>> for the Bill of Rights
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>> Thank you all for your response, I'll follow up with this further  
>> after some use this summer.
>> 
>> Scott
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>> Quoting John Johnston via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>:
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>>> Regarding prop size- My Alberg 30 ( # 69) spent many more months at  
>>> the slip this past year unattended than I had anticipated. Last  
>>> October I came down to the Bay from my home in Massachusetts  
>>> intending to spend a pleasant month sailing. It turned out that  
>>> while the diesel fired right up, I had no forward or reverse motion.  
>>> The shaft was turning, but no motion. I thought perhaps it was  
>>> barnacles on the prop, and I hired a diver to give it a scrape and a  
>>> scrub, but he resurfaced in a minute and informed me that I had no  
>>> prop, just a hub. Severe galvanic corrosion. The story goes on, but  
>>> the point is that I am looking to buy a new prop.
>>>     My diesel is a Westerbeke 20 2B. Not the original engine, but  
>>> when a previous owner installed it they kept the 2 blade prop that  
>>> was appropriate for the Atomic 4. I decided to upgrade to a three  
>>> blade Chesapeake prop at that time,  (5 years ago) which was deemed  
>>> to be the proper, well, prop, for the new engine and transmission.
>>>    However, now it is time for a new prop. What I had bought was  
>>> a 13x12x3 from Miller Island. Lovely piece of work, but it is shot.  
>>> I have also been doing some research and reading, and came across an  
>>> article about prop size by Ted Brewer more than a decade ago, and he  
>>> maintains that the prop in an aperture should never have less than  
>>> two inches of clearance at the top of the blade, to avoid  
>>> cavitation. The aperture height on my Alberg is 14?. To achieve that  
>>> 2? would be a 10? prop, which seems awfully sleight. I am thinking  
>>> perhaps an 11? prop with whatever adjustment to pitch would be  
>>> appropriate. Or maybe 12? as a compromise.
>>>   I would very much welcome the wisdom of the elders, and  
>>> everyone else that has expertise or experience  with this matter.
>>>   Thanks to anyone offering their experience or advice
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Mike Meinhold via Public-List  
>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>>>> ?Scott
>>>> I am glad to hear Bill of Rights will be sailing again.
>>>> 
>>>> If you have some specs on the Vetus 25 we can see how it compares with the
>>>> A4 -13x7 2-blade match that you most likely have
>>>> 
>>>> I repowered with a beta 16 and kept the same prop as I found it was about
>>>> the same operating point
>>>> We would need the engine torque and power vs rpm, and the gear ratio to
>>>> check.
>>>> 
>>>> For the sails I suggest you provide the sailmaker with  the Chesapeake
>>>> Alberg rules in the Association handbook.   I highly recommend 2 reefs and
>>>> use both frequently.
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> Rinn Duin 272
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 21:26 Bill of Rights #487 via Public-List <
>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello everyone, I am a long time A30 owner and also had a Tartan 34-2
>>>>> for 10 years, I just recently sold that boat.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm putting all my efforts back into #487 "Bill of Rights" this year! Yea!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am re-powering to a 25HP Vetus engine with a 2:1 hearth gear and
>>>>> just wanted to hear what others have "sized" for a 2 blade sailor prop
>>>>> on other diesel conversions?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The At-4 engine was rebuilt and has less than 10 hrs.   Any interested
>>>>> parties should reach out to me
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm also getting a new suit of sails from Precision, #400 series! Does
>>>>> anyone have any experience or suggestions would be helpful  Main w/ 2
>>>>> reefs,   135# headsail w luff  ??????????
>>>>> 
>>>>> New interior cushions!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Boat still has some deck issues and I'll have to fix that as I go
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope to catch up with like-minded a-30 sailors this summer on the bay.
>>>>> I am securing a slip on the Magothy River so I'll be closer to my home
>>>>> and sail some new waters this summer!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks   Scott
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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