[Public-List] [Ext] Re: Boat Insurance Question

Thu Mar 25 09:42:34 PDT 2021

Progressive let me in with a 1965.  Was more affordable than Hagerty by
quite a bit.

Al
Rascal #145

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 11:31 AM John Birch via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> In both Canada and the USA you can add Hagerty to the list of Marine
> insurance on Classic Boats including plastic classics.
> While we are with Skipper's Plan, Hagerty represents another avenue worth
> exploring.
>
> Hope this is a help.
>
> Cheers,
> JB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On
> Behalf Of Gordon Laco via Public-List
> Sent: March 25, 2021 11:31 AM
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Cc: Gordon Laco; RICHARD HAZLEGROVE
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Boat Insurance Question
>
> Hello friends,
>
> I second Marianne’s comments, Drew at Skipper’s Plan is a sailor himself
> and knows the business.  I have had a claim and having him navigating the
> insurance world for me was invaluable.
>
> I reckon the key is to have a broker who knows the business… they must
> exist in the US.
>
> One thing Drew helped me understand is that if one insures the yacht with
> too low a value assigned to her, even minor damage can cause her to be
> written off.  On that subject I am delighted that CARANDY, quite a nice
> A30, likely sold for a reasonably good price, which helps us all.
>
> Gordon Laco
> 426 Surprise
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Marianne King-Wilson via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > In Canada, there can be none better than skippersplan.com
> > They understand classic boats, particularly the A-30, make no
> unreasonable demands, and charge affordable rates.
> > I hope you will be so fortunate in your search.
> >
> > Marianne King-Wilson
> > Windward #369
> >
> >
> > On Mar 25, 2021, at 09:50, RICHARD HAZLEGROVE via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > I know this question comes up from time to time but since I wasn’t in
> the market for insurance I unfortunately did not take note of the
> suggestions.  Until now.
> >
> > I have a very generous Agreed Value policy from Hanover Insurance
> ($22,000) first issued in 1998.  I have never filed a claim.  Yesterday I
> received notice of non-renewal explaining that they were exiting the line
> of business.
> >
> > I’m not all that concerned about replacing the agreed value since I
> doubt it would be anywhere near what I had.  Boat US first quoted $5,100
> before clarifying that they don’t write this or even liability coverage for
> vessels older than 40 years.  Quest was built in 1970 and is kept on a
> private dock at our second home in the lower Chesapeake Bay.
> >
> > So can anyone suggest a company or agent that can underwrite basic
> liability coverage for my 50 year old boat.  Thanks
> >
> > Richard Hazlegrove
> > Quest 433
> > Mobjack Bay, VA.
> >
> >
> >
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> >> 1. Re: Prop Size (scott at scottmaury.com)
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> >> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 14:40:52 -0500
> >> From: scott at scottmaury.com
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> >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Prop Size
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> >> hey just a follow up, Michigan wheel has recommended that I get a 12"
> >> / 11  three blade prop and that is what the engine guys have ordered
> >> for the Bill of Rights
> >>
> >> Thank you all for your response, I'll follow up with this further
> >> after some use this summer.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting John Johnston via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>:
> >>
> >>> Regarding prop size- My Alberg 30 ( # 69) spent many more months at
> >>> the slip this past year unattended than I had anticipated. Last
> >>> October I came down to the Bay from my home in Massachusetts
> >>> intending to spend a pleasant month sailing. It turned out that
> >>> while the diesel fired right up, I had no forward or reverse motion.
> >>> The shaft was turning, but no motion. I thought perhaps it was
> >>> barnacles on the prop, and I hired a diver to give it a scrape and a
> >>> scrub, but he resurfaced in a minute and informed me that I had no
> >>> prop, just a hub. Severe galvanic corrosion. The story goes on, but
> >>> the point is that I am looking to buy a new prop.
> >>>     My diesel is a Westerbeke 20 2B. Not the original engine, but
> >>> when a previous owner installed it they kept the 2 blade prop that
> >>> was appropriate for the Atomic 4. I decided to upgrade to a three
> >>> blade Chesapeake prop at that time,  (5 years ago) which was deemed
> >>> to be the proper, well, prop, for the new engine and transmission.
> >>>    However, now it is time for a new prop. What I had bought was
> >>> a 13x12x3 from Miller Island. Lovely piece of work, but it is shot.
> >>> I have also been doing some research and reading, and came across an
> >>> article about prop size by Ted Brewer more than a decade ago, and he
> >>> maintains that the prop in an aperture should never have less than
> >>> two inches of clearance at the top of the blade, to avoid
> >>> cavitation. The aperture height on my Alberg is 14?. To achieve that
> >>> 2? would be a 10? prop, which seems awfully sleight. I am thinking
> >>> perhaps an 11? prop with whatever adjustment to pitch would be
> >>> appropriate. Or maybe 12? as a compromise.
> >>>   I would very much welcome the wisdom of the elders, and
> >>> everyone else that has expertise or experience  with this matter.
> >>>   Thanks to anyone offering their experience or advice
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Mike Meinhold via Public-List
> >>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?Scott
> >>>> I am glad to hear Bill of Rights will be sailing again.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have some specs on the Vetus 25 we can see how it compares
> with the
> >>>> A4 -13x7 2-blade match that you most likely have
> >>>>
> >>>> I repowered with a beta 16 and kept the same prop as I found it was
> about
> >>>> the same operating point
> >>>> We would need the engine torque and power vs rpm, and the gear ratio
> to
> >>>> check.
> >>>>
> >>>> For the sails I suggest you provide the sailmaker with  the Chesapeake
> >>>> Alberg rules in the Association handbook.   I highly recommend 2
> reefs and
> >>>> use both frequently.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> Rinn Duin 272
> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 21:26 Bill of Rights #487 via Public-List <
> >>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello everyone, I am a long time A30 owner and also had a Tartan 34-2
> >>>>> for 10 years, I just recently sold that boat.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm putting all my efforts back into #487 "Bill of Rights" this
> year! Yea!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am re-powering to a 25HP Vetus engine with a 2:1 hearth gear and
> >>>>> just wanted to hear what others have "sized" for a 2 blade sailor
> prop
> >>>>> on other diesel conversions?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The At-4 engine was rebuilt and has less than 10 hrs.   Any
> interested
> >>>>> parties should reach out to me
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm also getting a new suit of sails from Precision, #400 series!
> Does
> >>>>> anyone have any experience or suggestions would be helpful  Main w/ 2
> >>>>> reefs,   135# headsail w luff  ??????????
> >>>>>
> >>>>> New interior cushions!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Boat still has some deck issues and I'll have to fix that as I go
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hope to catch up with like-minded a-30 sailors this summer on the
> bay.
> >>>>> I am securing a slip on the Magothy River so I'll be closer to my
> home
> >>>>> and sail some new waters this summer!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks   Scott
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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