[Public-List] Moving to Google groups?

[George Dinwiddie]

Jonathan,

Having spent a half-day recently adding a DMARC record to the 
alberg30.org DNS, I took a look at a recent DMARC daily aggregate report 
from GMail and saw this snippet:

   <record>
     <row>
       <source_ip>209.85.220.69</source_ip>
       <count>2</count>
       <policy_evaluated>
         <disposition>none</disposition>
         <dkim>fail</dkim>
         <spf>fail</spf>
         <reason>
           <type>local_policy</type>
           <comment>arc=pass</comment>
         </reason>
       </policy_evaluated>
     </row>
     <identifiers>
       <header_from>alberg30.org</header_from>
     </identifiers>
     <auth_results>
       <dkim>
         <domain>honeylove.com</domain>
         <result>pass</result>
         <selector>google</selector>
       </dkim>
       <spf>
         <domain>honeylove.com</domain>
         <result>pass</result>
       </spf>
     </auth_results>
   </record>

Interestingly enough, the IP address 209.85.220.69 belongs to Google:

$nslookup 209.85.220.69
	Non-authoritative answer:
	69.220.85.209.in-addr.arpa	name = mail-sor-f69.google.com.

I don't know much about DMARC, but my guess is that Google has an error 
in their own internal mail forwarding rules. Perhaps that's a reason 
that Google has been refusing so much email from the alberg30.org lists. 
Or perhaps having a DMARC record that requests no action be taken on 
failed messages will increase the likelihood of mail being delivered--I 
don't know.

Good luck with your new job as an email list administrator.

  - George


On 11/15/22 7:04 AM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List wrote:
> Wade,
> 
> Did not receive a copy your original message that you sent to the public
> list run by George (Public-List at lists.alberg30.org)
> but did receive a copy of George's response that George sent to  the public
> list run he runs (Public-List at lists.alberg30.org)
> to your question regarding the new Alberg 30 Members Google Groups mailing
> list (a30-members at googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/g/a30-members>
> ).
> 
> Reasons are explained in the excerpts included below from the announcement
> of the migration.
> 
> The Member list has been moved to Google Groups.
> The Public list remains at alberg30.org, a website owned and run by George.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> ----------
> 
>>From the announcement:
> 
> Dear Albergers,
> 
> Due to difficulties that we have experienced over the past several years
> with the A30 mailing lists that have prevented many members from receiving
> information about Association activities and important messages from the
> Alberg 30 Association, we have decided to update our method of
> communicating to our members.
> ....
> We have chosen Google Groups to manage our email services for future
> messages. While the member-list at alberg30.org will remain active for the
> near future, we strongly recommend that you subscribe to he new Alberg
> 30 Google
> Groups Mailing List to ensure you receive all messages reliably.   Starting
> this month, announcements of Association events and other member
> communications will be sent only to the new Alberg 30 Google Groups Mailing
> List.
> .....
> Please don't hesitate to reach out to me at 262alberg30 at gmail.com or our
> Vice Commodore, TC Williams (a30vicecommodore at gmail.com), during the
> transition.  If you need assistance getting set up on our new Alberg 30
> Members Google Groups Mailing List, we'll be happy to answer questions and
> get you signed up.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 8:42 PM George Dinwiddie via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
>> Wade,
>>
>> I have no plans to make any changes to the public-list. The Alberg 30
>> Association has decided to start a google group list for members because
>> gmail has been so bad about refusing email.
>>
>> George
>>
>> Sent from a primitive pocket computer. Please assume all errors are due to
>> that.
>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2022, at 19:19, Wade Wall via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I saw a message on the Alberg 30 Facebook page about moving to Google
>>> Groups. Is this just the membership group? I couldn't ask because I'm not
>>> on Facebook and don't want to rejoin just for the Alberg 30 group. Also,
>> if
>>> anyone can tell me how to reply on this list serve. Sounds stupid, I
>> know,
>>> but the message don't pop up in my email. Thanks for any information.
>>>
>>> Wade

-- 
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
   When I remember bygone days                         George Dinwiddie
   I think how evening follows morn;            gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
   So many I loved were not yet dead,           http://www.Alberg30.org
   So many I love were not yet born.                          also see:
                'The Middle' by Ogden Nash     http://idiacomputing.com
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------