[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 4410, Issue 3
Gordon Laco
mainstay at csolve.net
Thu Jun 29 07:20:33 PDT 2023
Best ask Moyer about that.
Gordon Laco
www.gordonlaco.com
705-527-9612
> On Jun 29, 2023, at 10:10 AM, gewhite--- via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> Will the Moyer impeller puller work on other engines?
>
> - Gordon White
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> Funny story about the impeller puller? I bought one from Moyer last
> fall and admired it on my desk all winter. ?Oh what a pleasure it will
> be to use this clever tool? thought I, over and over.
> This spring I went to use it and found the two prongs weren?t even
> close to a fit into the spaces inside the pump. Gloom, frustration?
> wrote a ?how do I use this thing? message to Moyer.
> Then?.
> I looked at a youtube video on Moyer?s site showing use of the device.
> The two big red plastic knobs come off. They?re just there to protect
> the ends.
> Off they came and presto, the puller worked effortlessly. I had a laugh
> with Moyer about it afterward.
> Gordon Laco
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>> On Jun 28, 2023, at 10:59 AM, Greenhouse, Matthew A. (GSFC-6650) via
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>> Putting an inspection plate into the cockpit sole for this purpose is
> not necessary. Just buy the impeller puller and thumb screw cover plate
> from Moyer Marine. It makes changing the impeller a simple job.
>>
>> Matt
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>> 1. impeller ([20]dterrell1 at charter.net)
>> 2. Re: impeller (Rolph Townshend)
>> 3. Re: impeller (Gordon Laco)
>> 4. Re: impeller (Jonathan Bresler)
>> 5. Re: impeller (William Woodford)
>> 6. Re: impeller (Kris Coward)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:55:39 +0000
>> From: [21]dterrell1 at charter.net
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>> Subject: [Public-List] impeller
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>> I am interested in putting a deck plate in the cockpit above where
> the impeller is located so I can easily access and remove the impeller
> from the atomic 4 engine. Where should this deck plate be located? I
> can not think that I am the first person to think of doing this.
>> David, 432
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 08:49:53 -0400
>> From: Rolph Townshend <[24]joanrolph4 at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] impeller
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>> This does not sound like a good idea.
>>
>> Towney
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:55?AM David Terrell via Public-List <
> [27]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>>> I am interested in putting a deck plate in the cockpit above where
> the
>>> impeller is located so I can easily access and remove the impeller
>>> from the atomic 4 engine. Where should this deck plate be located? I
>>> can not think that I am the first person to think of doing this.
>>> David, 432
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 08:57:11 -0400
>> From: Gordon Laco <[34]mainstay at csolve.net>
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>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] impeller
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>> I?d agree? doesn?t sound like a good idea at all.
>>
>>
>> Gordon Laco
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>>> On Jun 28, 2023, at 8:49 AM, Rolph Townshend via Public-List
> <[38]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> This does not sound like a good idea.
>>>
>>> Towney
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:55?AM David Terrell via Public-List <
>>> [39]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am interested in putting a deck plate in the cockpit above where
>>>> the impeller is located so I can easily access and remove the
>>>> impeller from the atomic 4 engine. Where should this deck plate be
>>>> located? I can not think that I am the first person to think of
> doing this.
>>>> David, 432
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 08:57:57 -0400
>> From: Jonathan Bresler <[52]262alberg30 at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] impeller
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>> David,
>>
>> Not familiar with the location of the water pump and impeller on an
> Atomic
>> 4 as Constance has a Yanmar.
>> Would suggest considering cutting an access panel in one of the two
> cockpit lockers.
>> Cut an access panel on Constance, in the port locker, in the winter
> of
>> 2021-2022 so that I could more easily
>> adjust the stuffing box...I had replaced the stuffing that winter.
> Works
>> well. Could be that an access panel
>> of that type would allow you improved access to the water pump and
> impeller
>> as well. I made the cuts in the
>> plywood, that forms the inboard wall of the cockpit locker, about
> 1-1/2"
>> from the hull, the underside of the deck, and the forward end of the
> locker.
>>
>> Can send photos, if you need.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:50?AM Rolph Townshend via Public-List <
> [55]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>> This does not sound like a good idea.
>>>
>>> Towney
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:55?AM David Terrell via Public-List <
>>> [56]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am interested in putting a deck plate in the cockpit above where
>>>> the impeller is located so I can easily access and remove the
>>>> impeller from the atomic 4 engine. Where should this deck plate be
>>>> located? I can not think that I am the first person to think of
> doing this.
>>>> David, 432
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> These businesses support your Association:
>>>> http://www/
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:07:46 -0400
>> From: William Woodford <[69]bill.woodford at gmail.com>
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
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>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] impeller
>> Message-ID:
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>> David,
>>
>> I do have a deck plate on my cockpit sole. I did not install it; it
> must have been installed by a PO. It is fairly robust, made of bronze
> and when the plate is unscrewed it does allow better access to the
> shaft, stuffing box, etc. I have a yanmar 2gm so impeller access is not
> an issue.
>>
>> It is located about a foot aft of the bridge deck and centered. I did
> manage to find one photo of the cockpit sole and will forward it to
> you.
>>
>> I am not a fan of drilling holes in boats and certainly understand
> folks?
>> reluctance and hesitation. Whoever put it in must have done a pretty
> good job as I have not noticed any cockpit sole weakness nor water
> intrusion.
>>
>> Good luck with whatever you decide
>>
>>
>> Woody
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 08:58 Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> [72]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Not familiar with the location of the water pump and impeller on an
>>> Atomic
>>> 4 as Constance has a Yanmar.
>>> Would suggest considering cutting an access panel in one of the two
>>> cockpit lockers.
>>> Cut an access panel on Constance, in the port locker, in the winter
> of
>>> 2021-2022 so that I could more easily
>>> adjust the stuffing box...I had replaced the stuffing that winter.
> Works
>>> well. Could be that an access panel
>>> of that type would allow you improved access to the water pump and
> impeller
>>> as well. I made the cuts in the
>>> plywood, that forms the inboard wall of the cockpit locker, about
> 1-1/2"
>>> from the hull, the underside of the deck, and the forward end of the
>>> locker.
>>>
>>> Can send photos, if you need.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:50?AM Rolph Townshend via Public-List <
>>> [73]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This does not sound like a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> Towney
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:55?AM David Terrell via Public-List <
>>>> [74]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am interested in putting a deck plate in the cockpit above where
>>>>> the impeller is located so I can easily access and remove the
>>>>> impeller from the atomic 4 engine. Where should this deck plate be
>>>>> located? I can not think that I am the first person to think of
> doing this.
>>>>> David, 432
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 14:22:48 +0000
>> From: Kris Coward <[93]kris at melon.org>
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> <[94]public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] impeller
>> Message-ID:
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>> I used to have an atomic 4 on Candy Cane before repowering to
> electric, and what I remember of the water pump location isn't
> somewhere that access would be meaningfully improved to by a new hole
> in the cockpit. The water pump is basically diagonally down and forward
> of the forward bottom edge of the cockpit well, so a hole in the sole
> would be too far aft and oriented the wrong way, while a hole in the
> forward side of the well would be too high. The recommendation for a
> hole in the plywood panel making up the inboard side of the (starboard)
> cockpit locker seems the most reasonable to me (assuming the fuel tank
> isn't in there). Alternately, there are some people on the list who
> have replaced the original deck plate in the cockpit sole with a
> considerably larger hatch, which might allow enough of you to get far
> enough in (upside-down, of course) to meaningfully improve access to
> the pump.
>>
>> Really though, the best thing I can think of for improving the ease
> of impeller removal is to make sure that the screws holding the plate
> onto the back of the pump are hex-head screws that you can use a socket
> and ratchet to remove/reinstall, rather than having to reach farther
> over the engine to keep a screwdriver properly seated.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kris
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kris Coward
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>>
>>
>> ------- Original Message -------
>> On Wednesday, June 28th, 2023 at 10:07, William Woodford via
> Public-List <[97]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I do have a deck plate on my cockpit sole. I did not install it; it
>>> must have been installed by a PO. It is fairly robust, made of
> bronze
>>> and when the plate is unscrewed it does allow better access to the
>>> shaft, stuffing box, etc. I have a yanmar 2gm so impeller access is
> not an issue.
>>>
>>> It is located about a foot aft of the bridge deck and centered. I
> did
>>> manage to find one photo of the cockpit sole and will forward it to
> you.
>>>
>>> I am not a fan of drilling holes in boats and certainly understand
> folks?
>>> reluctance and hesitation. Whoever put it in must have done a pretty
>>> good job as I have not noticed any cockpit sole weakness nor water
> intrusion.
>>>
>>> Good luck with whatever you decide
>>>
>>>
>>> Woody
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 08:58 Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>>> [98]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> Not familiar with the location of the water pump and impeller on an
>>>> Atomic
>>>> 4 as Constance has a Yanmar.
>>>> Would suggest considering cutting an access panel in one of the two
>>>> cockpit lockers.
>>>> Cut an access panel on Constance, in the port locker, in the winter
>>>> of
>>>> 2021-2022 so that I could more easily adjust the stuffing box...I
>>>> had replaced the stuffing that winter. Works well. Could be that an
>>>> access panel of that type would allow you improved access to the
>>>> water pump and impeller as well. I made the cuts in the plywood,
>>>> that forms the inboard wall of the cockpit locker, about 1-1/2"
>>>> from the hull, the underside of the deck, and the forward end of
> the
>>>> locker.
>>>>
>>>> Can send photos, if you need.
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:50?AM Rolph Townshend via Public-List <
>>>> [99]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This does not sound like a good idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Towney
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:55?AM David Terrell via Public-List <
>>>>> [100]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am interested in putting a deck plate in the cockpit above
>>>>>> where the impeller is located so I can easily access and remove
>>>>>> the impeller from the atomic 4 engine. Where should this deck
>>>>>> plate be located? I can not think that I am the first person to
> think of doing this.
>>>>>> David, 432
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