[Alberg30] Re: Kicking the Tires

Gord Laco gord at transatmarine.com
Mon Apr 8 19:02:15 PDT 2002


Hi Neil.... sounds like an interesting boat.   Mine is for sail too; it's in
Midland Ont.   I know ABYC well, bought my old boat (Folkboat "Touch Wood")
from John French.... work with Joe Blair here, his family are old AB
members.

I'm in the market now for another wooden boat.

Gord
A30  #426
----- Original Message -----
From: Neil McPhail <namcphail at hotmail.com>
To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:25 PM
Subject: [Alberg30] Re: Kicking the Tires


>
> Hi all:
>
> Thanks very much to everyone for their advice.  It came in very handy when
I
> had a good, long look at that mid-70s Alberg 30 yesterday.  For those of
you
> following along, here's what I found:
>
> 1.  The general condition was pretty good for a 27 year-old boat.  The
> interior woodwork needs cleaning up and refinishing, but otherwise she (or
> "it", if you agree with the recent Lloyd's decision) looks pretty clean.
> The hull and deck look like they've seen some of the world, but that's
> expected for this age of boat.  Best of all, there don't appear to be any
> soft, mushy, flexy or delaminated spots (as far as this non-surveyor can
> tell).
>
> 2.  The through-hulls have been updated to "proper" (as opposed to the
> "homemade" version that was mentioned), with ball valves.  I think one or
> two may be brass, though, since they are showing a lot of green coloured
> corrosion.  Does bronze also turn brightish green (or blue)when corroded?
> All are backed up by at least 1/2" plywood blocks and appear well bedded.
> That same corrosion can be seen on a large nut on the prop shaft, just
> behind the engine.
>
> 3.  Worry #1 - the Atomic 4 has about 1300 hrs on the engine (assuming the
> hour meter was installed at the start).  It's been painted white sometime
> not too long ago, and rust spots are already showing through (it looks
like
> a case of chicken pox).  The boat was on the hard and there was no way I
> could easily start it.  It's raw water cooled, so seems like a good idea
to
> convert to a fresh water system.  Should I be worried?
>
> 4.  Worry #2 - the bottom forward area of the keel looks like it has gone
> "crunch" on something hard.  The damage doesn't seem too severe, though.
> There are one or two small (dime-sized) holes through the gelcoat, and
it's
> obvious from this area that the two hull halves were joined together
> longitudinally when built.  Also, there is a 5-inch crack on the aft edge
of
> the keel, on one side only, just at the point where the upper gudgeon
> attaches.  Are these normal, or something else to really worry about?
>
> 5.  Worry #3 - I can second (or third) the recent comments about the chain
> plates and bolts.  This boat too has problems.  The starboard upper
> chainplate bolts have bent slightly, which has caused the chainplate to
pull
> away from the support knee (or plywood bulkhead - I can't remember which).
> Both forward lowers have pulled the support knees away from the vee-birth
> shelves, but still appear to be firmly attached to the hull.  This area
> definately needs some work.
>
> Thanks for reading this far.  Are these unusual problems for Alberg 30s?
> Should I walk away from this boat, or are the problems not so severe that
> the boat will still survey satisfactorily?  Are there any sure things in
> life?! :-)  (besides the two obvious ones, that is...).
>
> You Great Lakes guys must be heading back into the water now.  I sailed my
> C&C 25 for 5 years out of ABYC in Toronto until last year, and know how
> special this time of year feels.
>
> Regards,
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
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