[Alberg30] Deck Repairs

Mike Lehman sail_505 at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 1 05:17:30 PST 2002


Oops - I thought we were talking about a 37. Pearson built good boats too.


----Original Message Follows----
From: DanaB <Berube5 at home.com>
Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Deck Repairs
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 07:57:45 -0500

FWIIW- the Alberg  35 was built by Pearson Yachts.

Dana Berube
1960 Pearson Triton #99

On 02/01/2002 07:52, "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com> wrote:

 > Buy it! Whitby built a good boat and just like any boat there will always 
be
 > a repair list. Do the repairs over time.
 >
 >
 > ----Original Message Follows----
 > From: "Paloma L. Hawry" <phawry at actoras.com>
 > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
 > To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
 > Subject: RE: [Alberg30] Deck Repairs
 > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:48:40 -0600
 >
 > I appreciate all the responses to our quandry.  It is a major decision 
for
 > us since we will invest mightily - heart soul and money in whatever boat 
we
 > find.
 >
 > We have had a very thorough survey performed with a moisture meter and 
have
 > drawings of where the suspect areas are. The surveyor's moisture meter
 > showed the damage to be essentially the length of both side decks, 
virtually
 > at every stanchion, no foredeck damage, a a small area on the cabin top.
 > (Mast step was rebuilt adequately and left open for inspection - no 
apparent
 > moisture damage in that area).  Our surveyor is locally known as "Dr. 
Doom"
 > so while we appreciate his thoroughness, we are left wondering how 
extensive
 > or serious the problem really is given that we know we are looking at a 
1965
 > boat which is bound to have problems.  There are no noticeable soft 
spots.
 > He passed the hull and other structural aspects as alright.  The boat has
 > been in the water each year (fresh water) but has hardly been sailed so 
it
 > has not had the structural stress of racing and cruising, just the stress 
of
 > slow neglect.  Rigging, sails, are sound, electronics minimal, AC wiring 
non
 > compliant but for us unnecessary.   Has an old Atomic 4, but my husband 
is
 > very comfortable with engine work, and we have already priced what a 
rebuild
 > would cost.  Our budget accounts for the need to replace and upgrade many
 > items, but it is the deck problem that has us in a quandry...
 >
 > Thus far my research and your responses have shown three distinct 
approaches
 > to repairing the decks:
 > 1) drill holes on a 1" a grid in the damaged areas, dry thoroughtly, then
 > fill with epoxy and sand/refinish
 > 2) cutout and retain top skin (remove all rotted core attached), remove
 > damaged core, sand down to lower skin, replace with new core material 
(foam
 > or plywood) refill with resin to the correct level, replace and fair-in 
the
 > old skin, and repaint surface as needed
 > 3) Cut-out area, remove damaged core, replace with foam or wood and 
rebuild
 > glass deck.
 >
 > Of these, it would seem to me that the second choice might make the most
 > sense as long as the original skin was in fairly good shape.  This would
 > largely preserve the original contours and molded non-skid and reduce the
 > fairing and surface areas requiring rebuild to look good.   Any thoughts 
in
 > comparing these approaches?  And again, does anyone know of a way to find 
an
 > individual tradesperson who might help us with the repairs?
 >
 > I'll stop cluttering up the cyberwaves now...
 >
 > Thanks All
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Paloma L. Hawry, Partner
 > Actoras Consulting Group
 > 1821 Walden Office Square Suite 400
 > Schaumburg, IL 60173
 > Office:  (847) 622-8812
 > Cell: (847) 274-3086
 > Fax: (847)631-0869
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From:    public-list-admin at alberg30.org
[mailto:public-list-admin at alberg30.org]
 > On Behalf Of greg
 > Sent:    Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:03 PM
 > To:    public-list at alberg30.org
 > Subject:    Re: [Alberg30] Deck Repairs
 >
 > I may regret sticking my nose in here. Having been involved in the repair 
of
 > such
 > things on our 1968 A30 #312. We have replaced our cockpit soul and 
repaired
 > side
 > deck de lamination in areas of the non skid with good result. It is not 
as
 > scary
 > as it looks... just time consuming. We did not cut away the wet 
de-laminated
 > areas  of the deck  ( not true of the cockpit sole) but drilled 1/4 inch
 > holes on
 > a 1 inch grid over the wet areas and then with lamps dried the areas till
 > the
 > moisture meter showed an acceptable content. We then injected as much 
epoxy
 > resin
 > as the delaminated area would except and filled and smoothed the area 
with
 > thickened epoxy. Over which we applied a new non skid surface with 
mron(sp)
 > and
 > Awlgrip's silica. We did this on the entire deck  and cockpit. It looked
 > great
 > when complete. Drying was not a fast process it took days and the project
 > took
 > alot of time away from sailing.
 >
 > Kindest Regards- Greg
 >
 > PS: I'm in west Michigan if you want to talk. 616 454 5225
 > PPS: Same for the cockpit sole.
 >
 > "Paloma L. Hawry" wrote:
 >
 >>
 >> We need to let the owner know soon if we are willing to purchase the 
boat
 >> and tackle this work.  Our expectation is that we are looking at deck
 >> repairs anywhere between $2000 and $7000 range - assuming we do some of
 > the
 >> work ourselves. (We are handy and willing to do much of the prep and
 >> painting/finish work, but haven't got the experience or sufficient time
 > for
 >> the structural work).  As we are on a very tight budget, we can't afford
 >> major surprises beyond that range.
 >>
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