[Public-list] vented loop

[sousa, stephen (ENG)]

James,

Understood. The tanks we ordered have 1 1/2 input and pump out with 2 3/4
vents. Fortunately these units have all hoses running into the top of the
tank. I would hate to try and reach the bottom of our tanks. As you and
George stated about the VW, done that trick at one time in my life. 

Good luck.
Stephen
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Stephen,

It's coming out of the bottom of the holding tank. My assumption is that it
might be the original unit that came with the boat. Obviously, I'd rather
have it 1 1/2" but I can't change that. 

Since you mentioned the 3/4" sea water intake, I had a heck of a time
getting the 3/4" on that intake - with jelly. I'm wearing a support on my
left arm today due to the tendonitis that flared up after the encounter. But
I won - it's on all the way.

James

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James,

Where is the 3/4" coming from going into the 1 1/2". Also are you installing
a holding tank in this configuration? The only 3/4 " I have in the system is
the sea water coming into the head. Everything exiting is 1 1/2" from the
head, out of the hull and into the tank. It is a mass of hoses and a lot of
thought went into the design.

Stephen

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Stephen,

Thanks for the advice; ditto to everyone else that responded to my question.
I put some of it together last evening and it is a job to say the least. The
space, or lack of it, is just the start. The heat gun is a great idea as I
found the hose to be extremely rigid. I'm in the process right now of
looking for a 90 degree elbow that will go from 3/4 to 1 1/2. Assuming that
it might be difficult to find I'll use a 3/4 elbow to a "3/4 to 1 1/2"
straight fitting. It's the only way I can get to the y valve in the confined
space that I have. I now believe that the experience of installing a head in
such a small space with so many hoses going in various directions (and
fittings) shares much in common with how many people you can fit in a phone
booth or VW. 

Thanks again,

James Schueler
"Oddyseus" #170

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James,

There are many opinions on this subject. I installed the vented loop when
the head was installed, the benefits out weight the cost. I used a bronze
unit with a screw cap which provides access if anything clogs up, since my
son was living on the Alberg and working at the boat yard during this time. 

The biggest issue was making the loops and bends that you describe. Buy a
heat gun which definitely helps with the bends and KY Jelly as a lube, these
are recommendations from the Alberg 30 Group and they make the job much
easier. Part of my installation was a holding tank which required installing
a 90 degree elbow in the bulk head for the input.

Good luck,

Stephen
#114 

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Hello everyone. I remember there was some discussion in the past in regard
to vented loops for the head. As I can no longer access the messages prior
to the last two months, does anyone have any ideas on whether it is
necessary to install the loop when connecting the head? I'm setting up the
system now but it is proving a bit more frustrating than I would like with
lines going all over the place. I'd like to make it as simple as possible
while not forsaking safety.
 
Thanks,
 
James Schueler
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