[Public-list] Anyone looking for a project?

Tue Nov 9 08:15:55 PST 2004

The numbers they mention are the USCG-required hull numbers that were
instituted in 1973 (or late 1972).  These numbers must be embedded in
the transom or the boat cannot be sold in the US.  I wasn't aware that
Whitby ever put that number on the metal builder's plate.

Jack, Villo, please correct me if I'm wrong.  My 1973 boat has the
7-digit Whitby number on the plate and the ZWB Coast Guard number on the
transom.  (And, yes, the numbers don't quite match.)

 - George

On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 10:41:30AM -0500, Mike Lehman wrote:
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> Mike Lehman
> ><((((?>?.???`?...?><((((?>
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> Wow! I am confused
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> so let's see...
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> Villo has 641 (ZWB 6410579) [Hull # + Month + Year] with the new numbering 
> system
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> then Jack has 618 which would be (ZWB 618??77 or 78) if the new numbering 
> system were used
> 
> In either case, if you are asking about builders plates, they only have 
> room for 7 digits. Which would look some thing like 3079641 for Villo's 
> boat.
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> 
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Jack Vanderloo <jvdloo at sympatico.ca>
> Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-list] Anyone looking for a project?
> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:15:50 -0500
> 
> Ahoy Villo:
> 
> La confusion, c'est moi!
> I have hull number 618 with sail number KC641.
> When Whitby originally laid up hull number 618 in late 1977, early 1978, 
> there were minor aesthetic flaws in gelcoat colouration, i.e., splotches.  
> I suspect strongly that they held off and commissioned her (hull 618) much 
> later - immediately after hull/sail KC640 - and gave your hull 641, sail 
> number KC618 in May 1979, ergo the ZWB 6410579.
> The gelcoat defects have never bothered me as I Awlgripped hull 618 when I 
> bought her in early 1993.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Jack Vanderloo
> Aldabi KC641
> 
> Villo Marmei wrote:
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> >
> >Hi Mike.....
> >I have this funny situation....My hull plate and transom stamp reads ZWB30 
> >64105 79 and my sail number is KC-618. That is...hull number 641 and sail 
> >number 618. Someone else here must have hull 618 and sails 641.
> >Another question ??? What should I call myself ??? KC641 or KC618 ??? Go 
> >figure ???
> >Take care Villo
> >
> >
> >
> >At 01:14 PM 10/18/2004, you wrote:
> >
> >>Often hull number and sail number become confused, because a sail can 
> >>change hands many times. Whitby did make boats with the smae hull number 
> >>for the first couple of years: 1 for Canada and the other fro the US 
> >>market. The sails indicated US22 or KC22. This practiced stopped around 
> >>hull #26 [I think] maybe some old-timers can help to determine when this 
> >>practice was stopped. I do not beleive there are 2 boats with #306 
> >>however.
> >>
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> >>
> >>             Mike Lehman
> >>
> >>><((((?>?.???`?...?><((((?>
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> >>
> >>----Original Message Follows----
> >>From: Michael Connolly <crufone at sbcglobal.net>
> >>Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
> >>To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
> >>Subject: Re: [Public-list] Anyone looking for a project?
> >>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:07:05 -0700 (PDT)
> >>
> >>Interesting,
> >>One the list is hull# 306 in Grenada and now we have this boat Down East 
> >>with hull # 306.
> >>
> >>Did Whitby ever make two boats with the same hull# ?  Does someone have 
> >>the scoop on this?
> >>Michael
> >>
> >>FINNUS505 at aol.com wrote:
> >>Hello my Alberg 30 Friends,
> >>
> >>Looking through the local paper I saw an ad for an Alberg 30, priced 3200
> >>bucks. Rona and I had to go see it.
> >>
> >>1968 hull # 306 had some back luck 15 years ago. She was docked next to a
> >>motor boat that caught fire. 306 had significant damage to her cabin 
> >>trunk and
> >>cabin interior. The deck and topsides on the port side were blistered 
> >>from the
> >>heat. But she had a new Westerbeke diesel installed just three months
> >>before, so her current owner, a marine surveyer, bought her from the 
> >>insurance
> >>company.
> >>
> >>He began to reconstruct the cabin trunk. From what I saw yesterday, it 
> >>was a
> >>good effort. But he stopped before he did the finishing work, cut out for 
> >>the
> >>doghouse ports or the main companion in the way of the cabin top, or
> >>re-installed the forward ports, and the boat has sat open like this for 
> >>the past 10
> >>years. There is a garden growing in the cockpit. The port toe rail is 
> >>off, as
> >>are both cockpit coamings. The for-hatch is in place, but coming apart at
> >>the seams; same for the aft-hatch. The cockpit locker hatch covers are
> >>weathered, but have very minor delamination of the seams, and are still 
> >>salvageable.
> >>
> >>The drain plug was out, so she did not fill with water, but the interior 
> >>of
> >>the boat is shot, from fire and smoke damage, and exposure all these 
> >>years.
> >>The engine does not appear to have been in direct contact with rain or 
> >>snow,
> >>but it has alot of superficial rust. I don't know how the alternator or
> >>starter, etc, could not have been affected.
> >>
> >>The owner says he has all the boat's gear, but they were at a different
> >>location, and I didn't go to see them.
> >>
> >>No doubt she looks pretty sad right now. Like finding an Opera Diva after 
> >>a
> >>tragic amnesiatic car accident in a homeless shelter. But even with moldy,
> >>mildewed, generic wrecks to either side, weeds below, tree branches 
> >>hanging
> >>just above, still her classic Alberg lines are undiminished. The guy is 
> >>asking
> >>3200, but I got the distinct impression he is tired of having her sitting
> >>around, and would be glad to see her go at any price. He 'threatened' 
> >>that he was
> >>going to pull the engine out to sell, and bulldoze the hull.
> >>
> >>For someone who wants an Alberg 30 with a Westerbeke, both needing a lot 
> >>of
> >>work, but both high on the potential list, this is worth a look. I hate 
> >>to see
> >>her lost. Pass the word around amongst your wharf-rat friends.............
> >>
> >>The boat is in Seekonk, Mass, which is about an hour Southwest of Boston 
> >>and
> >>a half hour or so North from Newport, RI. Seller's cell # is 774-991-1636
> >>
> >>Lee and Rona Trachtenberg
> >>Stargazer #255
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