[Public-List] Wire reel winch -handy billy

Tue Jun 30 07:29:03 PDT 2009

I feel salty just reading about it (and my dog keeps wanting to lick my
arm).  Think also of the 10 or so pounds no longer adding a burden to the
righting moment some six plus feet above the water line; more streamline to.
I might mount a couple of those torpedo shaped speakers you see on water ski
boats on the old winch bases.  

Roger 148

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Laco
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Wire reel winch -handy billy

I've been waiting for somebody to ask!

If you don't want to use a winch, what you do is make yourself a small 3:1
or 4:1 tackle - the boom vang will do.  You haul up the main until it is up
as far as hand tension will take it; then you take your tackle, which has
hooks on the bales of the blocks and put one hook on a ring on the mast
(bale for the vang will do) and put the other hook on a ring that you have
cleverly worked into the halyard about three feet or so up the mast.

You pull on the tackle, that tensions the halyard.  Once the halyard is
cleated off, you remove the handy billy and either stow it or turn it into a
vang again.

Presto - no winch required; and how salty you will feel!

Gord #426 SURPRISE (now I am waiting to see if my halyard winch sales
plummet...)

On 6/30/09 9:56 AM, "dan walker" <dsailormon at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> ok gord, educate me again, what's a handy billy/ dan
> 
> --- On Tue, 6/30/09, John Birch <Sunstone at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
>> From: John Birch <Sunstone at cogeco.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Wire reel winch - information needed
>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" 
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 9:28 AM The Technical Committee Report 
>> in "The Desirable & Undesirable Characteristics of Offshore Yachts" 
>> published post the Fastnet Disaster
>> (1979) to wide acclaim concurs with my post pasted below, as does 
>> Gord Laco
>> 
>> -------------------------------------
>> 
>> My advice, take it off, polish it and put it over the fireplace as a 
>> mantle piece
>> 
>> Had one on Sunstone, brake slipped and broke my wife's glasses when 
>> reefing.
>> Lucky for her, it could have been much more serious. I have heard of 
>> jaws, wrists etc broken when the clutch fails and the winch handle 
>> free spins.
>> 
>> Replace it with a regular winch, much safer.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> -----------------------------------------
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <mahseer at kos.net>
>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" 
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Wire reel winch - information needed
>> 
>> 
>> I have 3 wire reel winches on Mahseer. Each one is different on how 
>> the wire is attached, the one I use for my main outhaul has two grub 
>> screws visable on top of the winch, the second one used for my main 
>> halyard has the screws below the top plate.  This is accessed by 
>> removing the circular spring in the centre and removing the plate.  
>> The locking mechanism is a clamp arround the base of the winch, do 
>> not oil or grease this part or it will slip.  The third winch that I 
>> use for my headsail furling has the screws accesable from the top.  I 
>> have had these since I bought the boat and do not intend to replace 
>> them.  they make the cockpit tidy with no lines to store when used.  
>> As to the safty of these my winches have not slipped nor do I keep a 
>> winch handle in the top unless I intend to use it.
>>  When reefing I keep my hand on the winch at all times thus 
>> eliminating any chance of a runaway handle.
>> 
>>   The arguments put forward about broken arms etc is like saying you 
>> should not have a gas engine or propane on board because it might 
>> explode, yes this could happen if you do not follow basic safety 
>> precausions.
>> 
>> john Boor
>> MAHSEER #380
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> For the time being, I use the original type of wire
>> reel winch for my
>>> mainsail halyard.
>>> 
>>> I have read the threads this site which deal with
>> safety concerns.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Might anyone have a manual on this winch?
>>> 
>>> In particular, I am interested in:
>>> 
>>> 1) how the wire is attached to the drum (So I can
>> remove it briefly and
>>> re-attach, for a reason I would rather not share!)
>>> 
>>> 2) how to service/lube it (So I can care for it.)
>>> 
>>> 3) how the clutch mechanism works (So I have some kind
>> og mental picture)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Tessier
>>> 
>>> A30#319, Trois Bouleaux, Lion's Head, Georgian Bay
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> P.s.: Had an enjoyable short cruise last week - 16
>> hours with little to no
>>> wind sailing through one night up towards Lonely
>> Island and followed by
>>> two days lively sail for the return anchoring at Club
>> Island and Wingfield
>>> Basin on the return trip to Lion's Head.
>>> 
>>> P.p.s.: Sure made a mistake bringing along my stay
>> sail instead of my
>>> large drifter.
>>> 
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