[Public-List] Tiller Head - I'm stuck!

Rod Symmes weatherhelm at hotmail.com
Sun Apr 1 08:11:24 PDT 2012



Oh, Gordon........ you do have a way.

AND  you are absolutely correct !   Are you not a farm boy ???

Cheers,   Rod

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> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:45:35 -0400
> From: mainstay at csolve.net
> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller Head - I'm stuck!
> 
> I deal with old fastenings like this:
> 
> First one must "Address the bolt" and apply various techniques involving
> cursing the bolt, one's tools, the whole boat, etc.   Second  one must "Get
> the bolt's attention" which involves hitting it smartly on the head with a
> hammer.   If one does this before the first wrench is applied, the bolt will
> know that this is a battle to the death that it cannot win.
> 
> Success in the whole procedure hinges upon not losing the moral high ground
> and letting the bolt dictate what your next action will be and how the job
> was going to go.  You must keep the initiative.
> 
> Applying all one's available resources at the first go is a mistake, because
> if the attack fails, clearly the bolt now has the upper hand knowing you've
> already played your best cards.  The bolt will face your next attempt secure
> in the knowledge that it has soundly beaten you once, and it may beat you
> again.
> 
> Better to use gradually increasing levels of force.  This keeps the upper
> hand in your court, because the bolt soon must know that if it has resisted
> the most recent assault, that victory is hollow and means nothing, because
> recent history would indicate that you will be back and with more force, in
> only a moment.  You keep your morale high, you may even laugh, while the
> bolt's morale simply must get lower and lower until it knows when it is
> exhausted, it ultimately must give up.
> 
> Courage, intellect and steadfast resolve will win - you have to believe
> that, or at least you must act in the face of your foe as if you believe it.
> In the Navy they teach you that in combat situations when things seem
> unbearably tough, one should keep in mind that things are probably at least
> as tough for the other side. So hold your head up, think tactically, seize
> opportunities and exploit them, lead your people resolutely, press on, press
> on.
> 
> Gord #426 Surprise
> 
> 
> On 31/03/12 7:40 PM, "Glennb" <brooks.glenn at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Jeff,
> > Forgot to mention... Maybe wrap some reflective sheet metal, even an old tin
> > foil pie pan or cookie sheet against the hull, behind the shaft, to prevent
> > residual flame from scorching/burning the surrounding fiberglass!
> > 
> > Gpb  
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> > On Mar 31, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Jeffrey <alberg30nh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Thanks Glen. I will try adding heat tomorrow.
> >> On Mar 31, 2012 7:00 PM, "Glennb" <brooks.glenn at comcast.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> Jeff,
> >>> 
> >>> I ve always had good success putting some heat on frozen bolts with a
> >>> small torch.  once red hot, squirt some cutting oil, or penetrating oil on
> >>> the bolt. The heat will swell the material,   the oil will quench the bolt-
> >>> rapidly shrink it- causing the threads to loosen up.  also the heat will
> >>> draw the oil into the threads  and allow you to back it out of the shaft
> >>> easier.
> >>> 
> >>> (cut the nasty old deck away from around the shaft son you can get your
> >>> hands into the work area). I replaced my cockpit floor last summer, makes
> >>> life a lot easier when you cab get at the shaft, etc!
> >>> 
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Glenn P.
> >>> dolce 318
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>> 
> >>> On Mar 31, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Jeffrey <alberg30nh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> I'm about to embark on a cockpit floor re-core, but I've hit a roadblock
> >>>> getting the tiller head off.
> >>>> 
> >>>> In front of the tiller head is a big (5/8 If I remember) bolt head.  This
> >>>> bolt..no way is that sucker moving.  So far a couple of days dribbling in
> >>>> some PB Blaster and still nothing. The bolt looks like steel.
> >>>> 
> >>>> What exactly is this bolt? Does the bolt go through the rudder shaft? I
> >>> can
> >>>> just almost barely see the back side, and it looks like there *may* be a
> >>>> hole. Is this common to all boats?
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Jeff
> >>>> 
> >>>> Jeff Fongemie
> >>>> #116 Seagrass
> >>>> 
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