[Public-List] Tiller Head - I'm stuck!

crufone at comcast.net crufone at comcast.net
Tue Apr 3 04:22:08 PDT 2012



Jeff, 

Try making a dam around the fitting so you can immerse the entire fitting in your release solvent of choice and then let it set for a week. 

Michael 



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From: "Jeffrey" <fongemie at gmail.com> 
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 6:56:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller Head - I'm stuck! 

Stephen, 

I don't see a locking nut? Could be different? 

Here's a pic: 

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/lsS244jx3K_MsQHCr2zNU8Yo97La3IcdoLp5HwrbtiM?feat=directlink 

The gallery of my lovely tiller head which again has me defeated 
today.  https://picasaweb.google.com/fongemie/March312012?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCOui54Ls4Ou7OQ&feat=directlink 


-Jeff 

Jeff Fongemie 
#116 Seagrass 

http://picasaweb.google.com/fongemie 









On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Stephen Sousa <alberg114 at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> Jeff, 
> 
> Attached to that bolt is a locking nut that needs to backed off. Generally when that is free the bolt/pin will screw out of the tiller head. This is generally the easy part, I had a very difficult time removing the tiller head on #114 a few years back and used WD40/PB Blaster and a torch. That process took a few days to remove the tiller head. 
> 
> Stephen 
> (former owner of #114) 
> 
> 
>> From: brooks.glenn at comcast.net 
>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org 
>> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:47:52 -0700 
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller Head - I'm stuck! 
>> 
>> hi Jeff, Did you heat the bolt to red hot? Iam surprised it didn't back out of the bronze shaft. 
>> 
>> Any chance the other end is peened...hammered into a mushroom shape to prevent extraction? 
>> 
>> BTW, your rebuild photos on line are fantastic. great wood working and varnish! 
>> 
>> Glenn B 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote: 
>> 
>> > Wish I had real advice to offer.... 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On 02/04/12 10:07 AM, "Jeffrey" <fongemie at gmail.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> End of day two: 
>> >> 
>> >> Bolt 2 
>> >> Me 0 
>> >> 
>> >> -jeff 
>> >> 
>> >> Jeff Fongemie 
>> >> #116 Seagrass 
>> >> 
>> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/fongemie 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >>> Thanks - that's high praise 
>> >>> 
>> >>> G 
>> >>> 
>> >>> On 2012-04-01, at 10:43 AM, dan walker <dsailormon at yahoo.com> wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>>> gord, i see you have been taking writing lessons from mowatt.. 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> ________________________________ 
>> >>>> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> 
>> >>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:45 PM 
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller Head - I'm stuck! 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> I deal with old fastenings like this: 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> First one must "Address the bolt" and apply various techniques involving 
>> >>>> cursing the bolt, one's tools, the whole boat, etc. Second one must 
>> >>> "Get 
>> >>>> the bolt's attention" which involves hitting it smartly on the head with 
>> >>> a 
>> >>>> hammer. If one does this before the first wrench is applied, the bolt 
>> >>> will 
>> >>>> know that this is a battle to the death that it cannot win. 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Success in the whole procedure hinges upon not losing the moral high 
>> >>> ground 
>> >>>> and letting the bolt dictate what your next action will be and how the 
>> >>> job 
>> >>>> was going to go. You must keep the initiative. 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Applying all one's available resources at the first go is a mistake, 
>> >>> because 
>> >>>> if the attack fails, clearly the bolt now has the upper hand knowing 
>> >>> you've 
>> >>>> already played your best cards. The bolt will face your next attempt 
>> >>> secure 
>> >>>> in the knowledge that it has soundly beaten you once, and it may beat you 
>> >>>> again. 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Better to use gradually increasing levels of force. This keeps the upper 
>> >>>> hand in your court, because the bolt soon must know that if it has 
>> >>> resisted 
>> >>>> the most recent assault, that victory is hollow and means nothing, 
>> >>> because 
>> >>>> recent history would indicate that you will be back and with more force, 
>> >>> in 
>> >>>> only a moment. You keep your morale high, you may even laugh, while the 
>> >>>> bolt's morale simply must get lower and lower until it knows when it is 
>> >>>> exhausted, it ultimately must give up. 
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