[Public-List] Repower, rebuild or sell

Wed Dec 10 12:23:29 PST 2014

Brian,

FWIW,

I faced the same issue last year and found a used diesel to install.  Even
cutting costs, I spent around $ 7,500 for the engine, new beds, install,
new prop, gauges, etc.

If I would have used a rebuilt graymarine or Atomic four, that would have
eliminated many costs thereby lowering the total.

To answer your question re: pricing of a "project" boat, I recollect that
there was an engineless A30 for sale in Annapolis last year.  My memory is
that the asking price was $ 2,500.00.

Good luck,

Woody
US 11

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Brian Zinser via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I am not done sailing. Might just use this as an excuse to move up.
>
> Have been looking at Alberg 37s, Morgan 38s and Cabot 36s.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Meinhold, Mike via Public-List
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:46 PM
> To: Glenn Brooks; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all; Wes Gardner
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Repower, rebuild or sell
>
> Brian,
>  We (or at least I) would be interested in why your are selling. Done
> sailing? Moving to another boat?
> If so I agree with the idea that you either re-engine or take the engine
> out. If you take it out, it would be worth cleaning and painting the bilge
> for salability.
>
> If you intend to keep sailing, re-engine with a diesel and keep the A30.
> It's not that large a project.  I think there is no less expensive solution
> for the same quality of sailing!
>
> Mike
> Rinn Duin #272
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Glenn Brooks via Public-List
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:29 PM
> To: Wes Gardner; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Repower, rebuild or sell
>
> Brian,
> It might be time well spent to google craigslist for used marine engines
> for
> a few days.  I've seen both a rebuilt atomic 4 and several used but running
> small marine diesels for sale (cheap) around the Seattle  area over the
> last
> few months.  If the price is right and the equipment runs OK, you could
> afford to ship a used or rebuilt engine from anywhere in the country back
> to
> your location more economically than buying new, probably for less than
> $400
> freight cost.
>
> BTW, don't be put off by the work involved in changing engine mounts. I
> redid mine to correct some alignment issues this fall. IT was no big deal.
> Took less than 3 hours to glass in new beds and bolt back up the existing
> engine mounts.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Glenn
> Dolce #318
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Brian,
> >
> > Looks like to me you have two options-your current motor with cracked
> block is toast leaving you with the Automatic 4 which you should be able to
> get at a reasonable price, installed.  You'd probably increase the value of
> the boat over its current "project boat" status dollar for dollar??? The
> other option is, as you've stated, the new diesel option where you will not
> recover the cost dollar for dollar.
> >
> > Obviously there are a few variables going on here, personally I think I'd
> go the A4 route-it'll be rebuilt, right?
> >
> > You can then sail her for a couple more years or sell. Can I assume you
> owe nothing on her as she sits?
> >
> > Or maybe it's the project boat route where you take your 3 or 4 K and
> walk
> away.
> >
> > Wes
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Brian Zinser via Public-List
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I have owned #134 for more than 15 years. She has a Gray Marine Sea
> Scout
> >> which has never let us down. Two years ago I noticed some loss of power
> and
> >> this season I started to notice water in my oil. Anyway, when she was
> hauled
> >> out this fall I had the engine removed and diagnosed. This is the report
> I
> >> received:
> >>
> >> We did a compression test on the motor  with the following results:
> >> 110lbs. #1 cylinder; 100 #2lbs. cylinder; 0lbs. #3 cylinder;  40lbs. # 4
> >> cylinder
> >>
> >> We found the motor has a cracked block and has two broken valve springs
> with
> >> a bent valve.
> >>
> >> The motor had water in the oil and the oil was very milky.
> >>
> >> We removed the head to do visual inspection of valves and head gasket
> and
> do
> >> not believe the water is coming through the head gasket, but that it's
> >> coming through at a different point, possibly the crack in the block.
> >>
> >> In our judgement we believe it would be best to replace motor.
> >>
> >> The shop that did the diagnosis has a used Atomic 4 they want to sell
> me.
> I
> >> have spoken/sent photos to Gray Marine in Illinois and he has informed
> me
> >> that he gets them like this all the time. No sweat. Cannot give me a
> quote
> >> without seeing.
> >>
> >> Other options include repowering with a diesel or selling the boat as a
> >> "project boat"
> >>
> >> For the most part, the boat is in fairly good shape. Only freshwater, no
> >> major remuddles. Average equipment, i.e. newer sails, ProFurl furler,
> >> dodger, Origo stove.
> >>
> >> I also have a decent trailer (not a highway trailer, but certainly more
> than
> >> a yard trailer - it can easily be used on secondary roads.)
> >>
> >> Thinking of selling. Any opinions on what might be a fair value for the
> boat
> >> with a torn down problem engine?
> >>
> >> Brian Zinser
> >> #134
> >>
> >>
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