[Public-List] Roller Reefing

[Gordon Laco]

Hello –

Aboard SURPRISE we have jack lines on deck for snapping safety harnesses to... and they do dandy double duty (wow, four ‘Ds’) retaining a doused sail.  

As the sail comes down, it is tucked under the otherwise taut jack line, which keeps it muzzled till it can be rolled up and bagged, or just stuffed down the hatch (which is where my genoa still is since the heavy air last race of the season...)

We also have an intermediate lifeline which is great for keeping a loose sail on deck, and also to inhibit a prone or kneeling sailor from sliding under the top one.

Back in the day, we used to run a zig zag of light line from the top lifeline to the toe rail specifically to keep loose sails on deck, and for added crew security.

Gord
#426 Surprise

On 2017-10-04, 10:55 AM, "Public-List on behalf of Jonathan Bresler via Public-List" <public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org on behalf of public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

    Makes a lot of sense, George.
    
    Wondering what folks do with a roller furler sail.  When a roller furler
    sailed is down on deck only the three corners are attached.  That leaves
    the 30'+ luff of the sail unattached, but for the head and the tack,
    waiting for wind or wave to sweep the body of the sail overboard.
    
    Was thinking that one way to handle this was via grommets in the luff of
    the sail with a line threaded through...folks have said that there is too
    much friction in such a setup.  Guess that reducing the number of grommets
    would reduce the friction while increasing the size of each "fold", the
    length of luff between grommets, between lowest grommet and the tack, and
    between the highest grommet and the head.
    
    So how do folks with roller furler sails handle sail changes when the wind
    is piping up and the wind and waves are trying to sweep the roller furler
    genoa off the into the sea?
    
    Jonathan
    
    On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:03 AM George Dinwiddie via Public-List <
    public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
    
    > On 10/4/17 5:30 AM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List wrote:
    > > "the convenience (of roller furling) still cant be beat"
    > >
    > > You can say that again!   I also single hand the vast majority of the
    > > time.  Flaking and folding the genoa, at the end of the seaons for
    > > instance, takes me about 15 minutes, I guess, on the dock.  Spend nearly
    > > the whole time going back and forth from luff to leech matching the
    > folds.
    > > If I had to do that every time, my guess is that I would sail less often.
    > > If not less often, then for shorter periods.
    >
    > On the boat, I flake the genoa on the side deck while it's still on the
    > forestay. First I neaten up the folds of the luff at the stay. Then I
    > pull back on the clew and fold from the leech roughly the same as the
    > folds on the forestay. I do this following the leech up the side deck to
    > the bow, and then go back to the clew and fold the flaked sail toward
    > the bow. Only then do I remove the hanks from the forestay and put the
    > sail in the bag (in either order). Or, when cruising, I use an
    > ever-ready bag and leave the bagged sail on the forestay.
    >
    > It's not as neat as two-people flaking the sail on the dock, but it
    > works pretty well for single-handing.
    >
    >   - George
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