[Public-List] More on the rudder discussion
Jason S
kk4mex at gmail.com
Sat Jan 19 08:33:04 PST 2019
In Norfolk, VA....I'll check on shipping next week. It will easily fit into
a USPS boxes.....so if USPS ships to Canada shipping should not be more
than $10-15
You can email me directly at Kk4mex at gmail.com to complete the sale
Jason
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 10:41 AM Greg Dawson via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org wrote:
> Hi there
> I don't wish to cut into anyone elses deal but I need a rudder shoe if it
> is available and not already gone. I'm in Hamilton, Ontario. Where are you
> and what would shipping cost?
> Regards
> Greg #348
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason S via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: Ryan Martin via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Cc: Jason S <kk4mex at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 8:21 am
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] More on the rudder discussion
>
> $60 plus shipping
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 5:46 PM Wehicks via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org wrote:
>
> > How much?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jan 17, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Jason S via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone need for a brand new rudder shoe?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 9:27 AM Michael Connolly via Public-List <
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org wrote:
> > >
> > >> Perfect! Could not resist. See how much fun we can have with the snow
> > >> still on the ground
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On January 16, 2019 at 8:56 PM Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Scoundrel!
> > >>>
> > >>> Gord
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>> On Jan 16, 2019, at 7:00 PM, Michael Connolly via
> > >> Public-List < public-list at lists.alberg30.org mailto:
> > >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Normaly rivets are set with a small air hammer set to a
> > >> specified pressure. The business end of the air tool can have several
> > >> different shaped "anvils' to conform to the factory head shape of the
> > >> rivet. The "dolly" or "bucking bar" can also have different shapes to
> > allow
> > >> the formed head to take various shapes. This is for most riveting
> > >> jobs......................................of course then there is Gord
> > who
> > >> enjoys the feel and satisfaction of a hand job. Oh gosh did I say the
> > wrong
> > >> thing?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>> On January 16, 2019 at 3:33 PM Rod Symmes via
> > >> Public-List < public-list at lists.alberg30.org mailto:
> > >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Gord:
> > >>>>> The only addition to your excellent description that
> > >> I would make is to use the ball end of a ball/peen hammer to round
> over
> > the
> > >> rivet. It improves the mushrooming effect.
> > >>>>> Granted, all my experience is with iron rivets. Would
> > >> this also be true with copper , Gord ?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers, Rod
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -------- Original message --------
> > >>>>> From: Gordon Laco via Public-List
> > >>>>> Date:16-01-2019 10:59 AM (GMT-05:00)
> > >>>>> To: jonathan.adams at analyticaltern.com mailto:
> > >> jonathan.adams at analyticaltern.com mailto:
> > jonathan.adams at analyticaltern.com
> > >> , Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > >>>>> Cc: Gordon Laco
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] More on the rudder
> > >> discussion
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hello Jonathan - I’ve done a fair bit of riveting in
> > >> boatbuilding contexts.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Riveting is a very secure mode of fastening… it’s
> > >> easy to remove a rivet by either grinding or drilling off the burr on
> > one
> > >> side, then driving the rivet out with a pin and hammer.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Replacing the fitting by riveting involves use of a
> > >> soft metal compatible with the fitting being secured… Cut a pin such
> > that
> > >> when run through the hole in the structure and fitting, about 3/16”
> > >> protrudes on each side. The fit in the hole needs to be tight. Place a
> > >> heavy mass (called ’the dolly’) on one end of the pin, and strike the
> > other
> > >> protruding end of the pin with a light hammer. I’ve found that
> repeated
> > >> lighter blows with a lighter hammer works better than fewer harder
> hits
> > >> with a heavy hammer. I’ve successfully used a hammer heavier than the
> > one
> > >> I’m hitting with as a good dolly. Be very sure that before each hit
> with
> > >> the hammer, the dolly is in contact with the rod/rivet. What you don’t
> > want
> > >> is for the rod to get knocked through so you lose the protruding end
> > which
> > >> you are trying to spread.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Why does the rod only spread at the protruding end?
> > >> Because you ensured a tight fit in the hole, there is nowhere else it
> > can
> > >> spread in response to the blows.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Take care that the pin is remaining ‘centred’ with
> > >> protrusions as equal as possible from either side… switch the side
> > you’re
> > >> hitting and the side with the dolly often. You’ll develop a spread on
> > each
> > >> end of the pin which you can encourage and develop as the hitting
> > >> progresses. At some point the pin will become secure, and when that
> > >> happens, you can really start riveting. What happens as the spread on
> > the
> > >> end is developing, is that metal is ‘flowing’ out of the shaft area of
> > the
> > >> pin into the spread… this forces the grip of the rivet to become very
> > >> tight. Magic.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Gordon Laco
> > >>>>> #426 Surprise
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2019, at 10:48 AM,
> > >> jreadams6 via Public-List < public-list at lists.alberg30.org mailto:
> > >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> All here are
> > >> some pics of Laughing Gull's rudder and comments. anyone have
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> any knowledge of the rivetted
> > >> type fastenings?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> https://alberg30maintenance.wordpress.com/2019/01/16/rudder-work/
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Jonathan Adams
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 443-223-2534
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