[Public-List] Toe Rail Update
Greg Roberts
greg at midnight-oil.us
Fri Feb 5 09:54:59 PST 2021
Happy Friday Everybody!
Marcelo,Thanks for the reminder. I'll watch it again.
Gordon,
A. Are you sure you don't want to use wood?Wood certainly looks
better, particularly on our classic boats. Ayla is an early boat, SN
306443, without the molded rail.Issues: 1. I'm better with metal. 2.
I've never done a scarf joint. 3. I've never tried to steam bend
wood.4. I have no idea of how to correct for the deck camber as it
varies from the bow to the stern.5. I don't know where I can get teak,
that thick, locally. I'm nervous about buying it online, sight
unseen.6. I like the idea of having the genoa track down tight to the
deck rather than mounted to the top of a narrow rail with long
bolts.7. I like the idea of all those places to tie to.8. I'm not the
best about staying on top of the varnish. Of course that might change
after putting in all the work to build new rails...
B. I cannot imagine why anyone would put a bow chock three fee aft
from the bow? normally the are inches aft on either side of the
forestay? they?re useless if they are further aft.
I have no idea why the chock is there but I figured I'd ask...
C. Bedding the toe rail (whatever the material it is) is best done
with something you can remove later.
What would you recommend for bedding the toe rail?
D. Sealing the deck to hull joint is best done with something which
cannot ever be removed? thickened epoxy with a reinforcing lamination
of fibreglass cloth is a good way to do it.I like the idea of using
epoxy. The deck, from looking at George's images of redoing the
taffrail, seems to be about 3mm thick at the joint. How much glass do
you use? Do you grind off that much to start or just grind to expose
the glass and accept the build up? How far back (how wide) do you
grind?
E. Reconfiguring the stern to let water run straight aft is not a
practical way to let water off the deck? when the yacht is at rest the
lowest point her her shear is about 1/3 of her length forward from the
stern? that is were there must be a scupper(s).No question you are
right about the scuppers. The path off the stern is to allow me to
direct dirt and soap suds off the deck using the hose. My current
scuppers drain slowly. It's a minor nit but if I'm going to change
things... My slip is really close to Kohler Craft so we get all junk
from the planes flying out of San Diego International. We used to get
a lot of junk from the yards but they have gotten a lot better about
containment in the last 5 years.
As always, Thanks for all the great advice!
Regards,
Greg
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Today's Topics:
1. Toe Rail Update (Greg Roberts)
2. Re: Toe Rail Update (Gordon Laco)
3. Re: Toe Rail Update (Marcelo D. Gentinetta)
4. Re: Public-List Digest, Vol 4114, Issue 3 (charles pleisse)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2021 22:27:15 -0800
From: "Greg Roberts"
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Hi Folks,
First, let me say thanks to everyone that has offered advice, both
here and via private emails!
I'm going to give it a try here at the dock and do it in sections.
Worst case, the yard behind me has a cradle on a track for hauling
boats that are too heavy for the crane.
I've decided to go with slotted toe rail (2807-24) and T track (2817)
from Crest Aluminum. At the stern I'm going to reconfigure the wood so
there is a path for water to drain straight back. I'll come up with a
scupper at the aft end of the T track. There needs to be room to
add/remove cars anyway. I'm still working on the bow. A router with a
carbide bit 'machines' aluminum rather well. I expect that the final
design will include cutting the extrusion so that a foot or so of the
side runs up alongside the stem fitting.
So three questions at this point:
1. What should I bed the extrusion with? I'm leaning towards butyl.2.
What should I seal the hull/deck joint with? I don't want to use 5200
as it's a PITA to remove and redo. I want something that works in a
caulking gun. I'm leaning towards Life Seal.3. How far back from the
bow should the fair leads be placed? I'm interested in what works best
on a mooring ball and with a bridle. Putting them close to the bow
simplifies the design but one I have is about 3ft back on the
starboard side. I'm guessing there might be a reason for it being back
that far. I have a bitt centered above the forward bulkhead.
Regards,
Greg
#43 Ayla
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 07:16:12 -0500
From: Gordon Laco
To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
Cc: Greg Roberts
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Toe Rail Update
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Good morning Greg,
Are you sure you don?t want to use wood?
I cannot imagine why anyone would put a bow chock three fee aft from
the bow? normally the are inches aft on either side of the forestay?
they?re useless if they are further aft.
Bedding the toe rail (whatever the material it is) is best done with
something you can remove later.
Sealing the deck to hull joint is best done with something which
cannot ever be removed? thickened epoxy with a reinforcing lamination
of fibreglass cloth is a good way to do it.
Reconfiguring the stern to let water run straight aft is not a
practical way to let water off the deck? when the yacht is at rest the
lowest point her her shear is about 1/3 of her length forward from the
stern? that is were there must be a scupper(s).
Gordon Laco
#426 Surprise
www.gordonlaco.com
> On Feb 4, 2021, at 1:27 AM, Greg Roberts via Public-List wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
> First, let me say thanks to everyone that has offered advice, both
> here and via private emails!
> I'm going to give it a try here at the dock and do it in sections.
> Worst case, the yard behind me has a cradle on a track for hauling
> boats that are too heavy for the crane.
> I've decided to go with slotted toe rail (2807-24) and T track
(2817)
> from Crest Aluminum. At the stern I'm going to reconfigure the wood
so
> there is a path for water to drain straight back. I'll come up with
a
> scupper at the aft end of the T track. There needs to be room to
> add/remove cars anyway. I'm still working on the bow. A router with
a
> carbide bit 'machines' aluminum rather well. I expect that the final
> design will include cutting the extrusion so that a foot or so of
the
> side runs up alongside the stem fitting.
> So three questions at this point:
> 1. What should I bed the extrusion with? I'm leaning towards
butyl.2.
> What should I seal the hull/deck joint with? I don't want to use
5200
> as it's a PITA to remove and redo. I want something that works in a
> caulking gun. I'm leaning towards Life Seal.3. How far back from the
> bow should the fair leads be placed? I'm interested in what works
best
> on a mooring ball and with a bridle. Putting them close to the bow
> simplifies the design but one I have is about 3ft back on the
> starboard side. I'm guessing there might be a reason for it being
back
> that far. I have a bitt centered above the forward bulkhead.
> Regards,
> Greg
> #43 Ayla
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 08:16:07 -0600
From: "Marcelo D. Gentinetta"
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Toe Rail Update
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Hi Greg,
Have you watched James Baldwin?s video on installing aluminum toerails
on an Alberg 30 on his website CYS Atom? If not, I would highly
recommend it.
Best wishes,
Marcelo Gentinetta
#441 Alegr?a
> On Feb 4, 2021, at 6:16 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List wrote:
>
> Good morning Greg,
>
> Are you sure you don?t want to use wood?
>
> I cannot imagine why anyone would put a bow chock three fee aft from
the bow? normally the are inches aft on either side of the forestay?
they?re useless if they are further aft.
>
> Bedding the toe rail (whatever the material it is) is best done with
something you can remove later.
>
> Sealing the deck to hull joint is best done with something which
cannot ever be removed? thickened epoxy with a reinforcing lamination
of fibreglass cloth is a good way to do it.
>
> Reconfiguring the stern to let water run straight aft is not a
practical way to let water off the deck? when the yacht is at rest the
lowest point her her shear is about 1/3 of her length forward from the
stern? that is were there must be a scupper(s).
>
>
> Gordon Laco
> #426 Surprise
> www.gordonlaco.com
>
>
>
>
>> On Feb 4, 2021, at 1:27 AM, Greg Roberts via Public-List wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>> First, let me say thanks to everyone that has offered advice, both
>> here and via private emails!
>> I'm going to give it a try here at the dock and do it in sections.
>> Worst case, the yard behind me has a cradle on a track for hauling
>> boats that are too heavy for the crane.
>> I've decided to go with slotted toe rail (2807-24) and T track
(2817)
>> from Crest Aluminum. At the stern I'm going to reconfigure the wood
so
>> there is a path for water to drain straight back. I'll come up with
a
>> scupper at the aft end of the T track. There needs to be room to
>> add/remove cars anyway. I'm still working on the bow. A router with
a
>> carbide bit 'machines' aluminum rather well. I expect that the
final
>> design will include cutting the extrusion so that a foot or so of
the
>> side runs up alongside the stem fitting.
>> So three questions at this point:
>> 1. What should I bed the extrusion with? I'm leaning towards
butyl.2.
>> What should I seal the hull/deck joint with? I don't want to use
5200
>> as it's a PITA to remove and redo. I want something that works in a
>> caulking gun. I'm leaning towards Life Seal.3. How far back from
the
>> bow should the fair leads be placed? I'm interested in what works
best
>> on a mooring ball and with a bridle. Putting them close to the bow
>> simplifies the design but one I have is about 3ft back on the
>> starboard side. I'm guessing there might be a reason for it being
back
>> that far. I have a bitt centered above the forward bulkhead.
>> Regards,
>> Greg
>> #43 Ayla
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:27:17 -0500
From: charles pleisse
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Maybe we should take a survey of interested parties to determine what
size
production run we could afford. I would be interested in a couple of
them
for Sookie.
Charles Pleisse
College Park Bicycles
( 301)864-2211
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> 1. Re: Liability Insurance (Jay Davenport)
> 2. Re: Reproduction Builder's plates (Kris Coward)
> 3. Re: Reproduction Builder's plates (Roy Jarnagin)
> 4. Re: Reproduction Builder's plates (John Irving)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 21:22:15 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jay Davenport
> To: "public-list at lists.alberg30.org"
> Cc: George Dinwiddie
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Liability Insurance
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> Allstate has been insuring my 1973 boat for the last 28 years, but I
may
> be grandfathered. I don't know if they are currently taking on older
boats.
> In any case, their premiums and service on claims have been good,
and they
> include $500. in towing insurance.
> Jay?
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 03:50:49 PM EST, George
Dinwiddie via
> Public-List wrote:
>
> Another company, which I've not seen mentioned here, is Gowrie
Group.
> They acquired IMIS which was an independent marine insurance broker
> started by Al Golden, whom I met through the CompuServe sailing
forum.
>
> It's hard to say how good they are, since I've never made a claim.
You
> can find them at https://www.gowrie.com/Marine-Insurance/IMIS.aspx
>
> ? - George
>
> On 2/3/21 8:38 AM, P Seidel via Public-List wrote:
> >? As a data point, USAA/Progressive and BoatUS/Geico will not
insure a
> boat built before 1965.? Erie and State Farm will.? I just ran into
this
> with trying to insure the #8 boat.
> >? ? ? On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 08:28:55 AM EST, Mike Lehman
via
> Public-List wrote:
> >?
> >? We are very pleased with Erie
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:16 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Al,
> >>
> >> Congratulations on finding an Alberg 30!
> >> You may wish to check with Progressive or
> >> USAA.
> >>
> >> Which Alberg 30 you are considering?
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 6:56 PM Alexander Mitchell via Public-List
<
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey all,
> >>>
> >>> I am looking at purchasing an A30 here in the midwest, and am
98% of
> the
> >>> way ready to say yes, pending a few last things.? The marina
says I
> need
> >>> liability insurance, but Geico/ Boat US won't insure anything
that old
> >>> (1965).
> >>>
> >>> Any recommendations?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >>> Al
> >>>
> >>> --
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> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 19:25:09 -0500
> From: Kris Coward
> To: Mike Lehman via Public-List
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
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>
>
> Do you still have the image of the plate that was sent for the
previous
> run of them? Possibly also dimensions?
>
> In a conversation off-list with a few people who'd expressed
interest, I
> brought up having found some good indications that hitting anodized
> aluminum with a CO2 laser (of the sort you can find at most
> hackerspaces/makerspaces, and that a decent assortment of hobbyists
also
> have at home) burns off the dye in the anodization, leaving bright
(but
> I imagine still anodized) metal.
>
> Basically this means that if you've got a suitably sized and
coloured
> piece of anodized sheet/plate, and an image file, there's a decent
> change that you can find a hackerspace, makerspace, or hobbyist with
a
> laser and a willingness to help you out to make your own plate with
no
> minimum order size.
>
> I don't know where to find such a laser around the Chesapeake, but
for
> Albergers close to Toronto, I know that Hacklab and Site 3 each have
> such a laser, can't quite remember if the Toronto Public Library has
one
> (or if they've just got 3d printers), strongly suspect that the
Toronto
> Tool Library has one, and I've got some friends around High Park who
> have one at home (and know of 2 more home lasers belonging to
friends
> who live up in Deep River). I imagine that they're not that much
scarcer
> around Maryland.
>
> Cheers,
> Kris
>
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 03:18:50PM -0500, Mike Lehman via
Public-List
> wrote:
> > Jim and I did this project as a team, I'll check the inventory but
I am
> > pretty sure it is depleted. I remember ordering them and may have
a
> record
> > from where in Baltimore. What I distinctly remember was the
minimum order
> > was 1,000 plates.
> >
> > Mike Lehman
> > ~~~_/)_/)~~_/)~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 3:13 PM Michael via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Jim Menucci was the ramrod for that offering; he is gone now. I
don't
> > > know where his source was.
> > >
> > > Michael Grosh
> > > #220
> > >
> > > ------ Original Message ------
> > > From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List"
> > > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> > >
> > > Cc: "Gordon Laco"
> > > Sent: 2/1/2021 2:44:22 PM
> > > Subject: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
> > >
> > > >Hello friends,
> > > >
> > > >Forgive me if this has been covered already? but are there
still
> > > reproduction builder?s plates for our boats available from the
> Association?
> > > >
> > > >I?d be interested in one myself? ours has long since had the
blue
> > > printing worn off?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Gordon Laco
> > > >426 Surprise
> > > >www.gordonlaco.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >_______________________________________________
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> > > >Please support them.
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> --
> Kris Coward
http://unripe.melon.org/
> GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733 830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 20:06:19 -0600
> From: "Roy Jarnagin"
> To: "'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'"
>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> You might check out the site frontpanelexpress.com. I have used them
to
> make panels for electronic equipment and have been pleased with the
results.
>
> Roy Jarnagin
>
> Southern Serenity #72
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On
> Behalf Of Kris Coward via Public-List
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 6:25 PM
> To: Mike Lehman via Public-List
> Cc: Kris Coward
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
>
>
> Do you still have the image of the plate that was sent for the
previous
> run of them? Possibly also dimensions?
>
> In a conversation off-list with a few people who'd expressed
interest, I
> brought up having found some good indications that hitting anodized
> aluminum with a CO2 laser (of the sort you can find at most
> hackerspaces/makerspaces, and that a decent assortment of hobbyists
also
> have at home) burns off the dye in the anodization, leaving bright
(but I
> imagine still anodized) metal.
>
> Basically this means that if you've got a suitably sized and
coloured
> piece of anodized sheet/plate, and an image file, there's a decent
change
> that you can find a hackerspace, makerspace, or hobbyist with a
laser and a
> willingness to help you out to make your own plate with no minimum
order
> size.
>
> I don't know where to find such a laser around the Chesapeake, but
for
> Albergers close to Toronto, I know that Hacklab and Site 3 each have
such a
> laser, can't quite remember if the Toronto Public Library has one
(or if
> they've just got 3d printers), strongly suspect that the Toronto
Tool
> Library has one, and I've got some friends around High Park who have
one at
> home (and know of 2 more home lasers belonging to friends who live
up in
> Deep River). I imagine that they're not that much scarcer around
Maryland.
>
> Cheers,
> Kris
>
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 03:18:50PM -0500, Mike Lehman via
Public-List
> wrote:
> > Jim and I did this project as a team, I'll check the inventory but
I
> > am pretty sure it is depleted. I remember ordering them and may
have a
> > record from where in Baltimore. What I distinctly remember was the
> > minimum order was 1,000 plates.
> >
> > Mike Lehman
> > ~~~_/)_/)~~_/)~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 3:13 PM Michael via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Jim Menucci was the ramrod for that offering; he is gone now. I
> > > don't know where his source was.
> > >
> > > Michael Grosh
> > > #220
> > >
> > > ------ Original Message ------
> > > From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List"
> > > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> > >
> > > Cc: "Gordon Laco"
> > > Sent: 2/1/2021 2:44:22 PM
> > > Subject: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
> > >
> > > >Hello friends,
> > > >
> > > >Forgive me if this has been covered already? but are there
still
> > > reproduction builder?s plates for our boats available from the
> Association?
> > > >
> > > >I?d be interested in one myself? ours has long since had the
blue
> > > printing worn off?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Gordon Laco
> > > >426 Surprise
> > > >www.gordonlaco.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >_______________________________________________
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 21:49:59 -0500
> From: John Irving
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
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>
> I?d be interested in a builder?s plate for Scotch Bonnet. How much
are
> they?
>
> > On Feb 3, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Roy Jarnagin via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?You might check out the site frontpanelexpress.com. I have used
them
> to make panels for electronic equipment and have been pleased with
the
> results.
> >
> > Roy Jarnagin
> >
> > Southern Serenity #72
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org]
On
> Behalf Of Kris Coward via Public-List
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 6:25 PM
> > To: Mike Lehman via Public-List
> > Cc: Kris Coward
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
> >
> >
> > Do you still have the image of the plate that was sent for the
previous
> run of them? Possibly also dimensions?
> >
> > In a conversation off-list with a few people who'd expressed
interest, I
> brought up having found some good indications that hitting anodized
> aluminum with a CO2 laser (of the sort you can find at most
> hackerspaces/makerspaces, and that a decent assortment of hobbyists
also
> have at home) burns off the dye in the anodization, leaving bright
(but I
> imagine still anodized) metal.
> >
> > Basically this means that if you've got a suitably sized and
coloured
> piece of anodized sheet/plate, and an image file, there's a decent
change
> that you can find a hackerspace, makerspace, or hobbyist with a
laser and a
> willingness to help you out to make your own plate with no minimum
order
> size.
> >
> > I don't know where to find such a laser around the Chesapeake, but
for
> Albergers close to Toronto, I know that Hacklab and Site 3 each have
such a
> laser, can't quite remember if the Toronto Public Library has one
(or if
> they've just got 3d printers), strongly suspect that the Toronto
Tool
> Library has one, and I've got some friends around High Park who have
one at
> home (and know of 2 more home lasers belonging to friends who live
up in
> Deep River). I imagine that they're not that much scarcer around
Maryland.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kris
> >
> >> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 03:18:50PM -0500, Mike Lehman via
Public-List
> wrote:
> >> Jim and I did this project as a team, I'll check the inventory
but I
> >> am pretty sure it is depleted. I remember ordering them and may
have a
> >> record from where in Baltimore. What I distinctly remember was
the
> >> minimum order was 1,000 plates.
> >>
> >> Mike Lehman
> >> ~~~_/)_/)~~_/)~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 3:13 PM Michael via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jim Menucci was the ramrod for that offering; he is gone now. I
> >>> don't know where his source was.
> >>>
> >>> Michael Grosh
> >>> #220
> >>>
> >>> ------ Original Message ------
> >>> From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List"
> >>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> >>>
> >>> Cc: "Gordon Laco"
> >>> Sent: 2/1/2021 2:44:22 PM
> >>> Subject: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
> >>>
> >>>> Hello friends,
> >>>>
> >>>> Forgive me if this has been covered already? but are there
still
> >>> reproduction builder?s plates for our boats available from the
> Association?
> >>>>
> >>>> I?d be interested in one myself? ours has long since had the
blue
> >>> printing worn off?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>> 426 Surprise
> >>>> www.gordonlaco.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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12B3
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