[Public-List] Rig Tension

[Gordon Laco]

Hello shipmates… when I responded below I put my answers to the questions in red… I see that didn’t carry through to the rebroadcast version.  You’ll have to separate things manually.  Sorry about that.


Gordon Laco
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> On Dec 7, 2022, at 7:31 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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> Good morning…  
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> Answers to questions below… 
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>>> 1) Raked back or forward?  Forward rake is rarely a good thing; only specific classes in specific situations use it.  Alberg 30’s can benefit from slight aft rake   A small amount of weather helm is good.  Too much is inefficient and aggravating.
>>> 2) How/where is the 10-12" or 4-5" measured? This is measured at the masthead, however, as one may imagine it is inconvenient to measure this up there so rake is adjusted by feel.  Raking the mast aft has the effect of ‘rotating’ the sail plan aft, thereby adjusting the centre of its area aft.  This increases weather helm. Raking the mast forward rotates the sail plan forward, moving the centre of area forward and so reduces weather helm.   The amount of weather helm a boat has is directly proportional to the health of the mainsail.  The more ‘blown out’ or otherwise out of shape the main is, the more weather helm the boat will have.  This is because a disproportionate amount of power is being developed in the after part of the sail plan.  A worn out main will also produce more heeling vector than forward thrust, and more heel means more weather helm.
>>> 3) How is the setting adjusted? E.g. which stays are tightened or loosened?   To rake the mast aft, one loosens the forestay and fore lower shrouds, then tightens the backstay… resetting the forward lowers once a bit of rake has been induced.   To put it simply, to rake the mast aft, loosen rigging which would prevent this movement, and tighten rigging which pulls it in the direction you want it to move.
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> Gordon Laco
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>> On Dec 7, 2022, at 2:17 AM, jefdaj via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>> No it's great that you ask! I'm interested too but kind of clueless.
>> Jeff
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>> ------- Original Message -------
>> On Tuesday, December 6th, 2022 at 7:40 PM, Steph Romaniuk via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>>> Re: Rake
>>> 1) Raked back or forward?
>>> 2) How/where is the 10-12" or 4-5" measured?
>>> 3) How is the setting adjusted? E.g. which stays are tightened or loosened?
>>> Thanks
>>> Sue may slap me for asking obvious questions with obvious answers...
>>> Thanks
>>> Steph (and Sue)
>>> Nimbus IX Alberg 30 #63
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>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 1:32 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>>>> Greg,
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>>>> Regarding the second item that you mentioned: rake.
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>>>> Rake is one of the factors that determine the amount of weather helm you
>>>> will experience.
>>>> Constance had more weather helm that I was happy with so I reduced the rake
>>>> from 10-12" to 4-5"
>>>> when I redid the standing rigging in the winter of 2019-2020. Quite
>>>> pleased with the result.
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan
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>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 1:46 PM Greg Roberts via Public-List <
>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>> Any thoughts on rig tension. I was just looking at the table that was
>>>>> collected back in 91.I didn't see anything on suggested rake.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Greg
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